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From: Warp
Subject: Re: High rez versus high refresh...
Date: 27 Apr 2009 11:44:01
Message: <49f5d2c1@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> I think he means it was not really surprising, because LCDs are very 
> inefficient so it's easy to make a nano-CRT more efficient? :-)

  Oh, I misread what he wrote and understood it completely in reverse.

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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: High rez versus high refresh...
Date: 27 Apr 2009 13:36:47
Message: <49f5ed2e@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> 
>>   Disadvantages of CRT:
>> 
>> - Energy consumption and heat production.
> 
> I work in a local store, and when walking past the large screen
> televisions, which are all LCD or plasma displays, I can feel the heat
> rolling off of these things.  Even the smaller ones suck down a great
> deal of power.

With respect to heat, I think the difference is LCDs are thinner. If they
heat the same, it will be more concentrated on a few cms of depth. CRT
screens have a larger area to spread their heat on :)


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: High rez versus high refresh...
Date: 27 Apr 2009 16:36:33
Message: <49f61751@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> Most *new* TVs are widescreen. (Indeed, it is apparently impossible to 
>> buy one that isn't.) Which is most perplexing, because there are no TV 
>> signals broadcast in widescreen,
> 
> Huh? I went to radiotimes.co.uk and clicked on about 20 shows today on 
> BBC1,2 and ITV, and *ALL* were widescreen.  I couldn't be bothered to 
> look longer for non-widescreen shows.  What are you watching?

Films tend to be widescreen, but little else. (E.g., all the adverts 
[not that we care], the news and weather, most of the game shows me mum 
insists on watching.)

Personally, I just avoid watching TV at all. Watching the adverts is 
like being on a bad acid trip (I'm not kidding!), and most of the 
programs are rubbish these days anyway...

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: High rez versus high refresh...
Date: 27 Apr 2009 16:38:08
Message: <49f617b0$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> Given that almost no new laptops seem to be coming with DVI sockets 
> (compared to desktop PCs which have had them for ages), I don't see this 
> matter changing in the near future.

Almost unbelievably, my laptop has a HDMI output. (!)

I'm not sure how you use it, mind you...

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: High rez versus high refresh...
Date: 27 Apr 2009 18:00:35
Message: <49f62b03$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Almost unbelievably, my laptop has a HDMI output. (!)
> I'm not sure how you use it, mind you...

You plug it into an HDMI input?

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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From: andrel
Subject: Re: High rez versus high refresh...
Date: 27 Apr 2009 18:21:48
Message: <49F62FFF.1090802@hotmail.com>
On 28-4-2009 0:00, Darren New wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Almost unbelievably, my laptop has a HDMI output. (!)
>> I'm not sure how you use it, mind you...
> 
> You plug it into an HDMI input?
> 
I think you might want to use a cable to connect the two, but may be I 
am old fashioned.


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: High rez versus high refresh...
Date: 27 Apr 2009 23:51:24
Message: <49f67d3c$1@news.povray.org>
On 4/27/2009 1:36 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Films tend to be widescreen, but little else. (E.g., all the adverts
> [not that we care], the news and weather, most of the game shows me mum
> insists on watching.)

I've seen many shows on TV lately in widescreen formats.  Some of them, 
though, seem to be some sort of compromise halfway between 4:3 and 16:9, 
so I'm not sure what the real aspect ratio of those is.

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...Chambers
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: High rez versus high refresh...
Date: 28 Apr 2009 04:24:02
Message: <49f6bd22@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Almost unbelievably, my laptop has a HDMI output. (!)
>> I'm not sure how you use it, mind you...
> 
> You plug it into an HDMI input?

I meant more that I'm not sure how to make it output a video signal on 
that port.

...of course, maybe it's not really HDMI, just normal DVI. But the 
product documentation claims it's HDMI.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: High rez versus high refresh...
Date: 28 Apr 2009 05:02:30
Message: <49f6c626$1@news.povray.org>
> Films tend to be widescreen, but little else. (E.g., all the adverts [not 
> that we care], the news and weather, most of the game shows me mum insists 
> on watching.)

Ermm, what TV signal do you receive?  From radiotimes.co.uk for this 
evening:

18:00 News, widescreen
18:30 Regional news, widescreen
19:00 The One Show, widescreen
19:30 EastEnders, widescreen
20:00 Holby City, widescreen

or perhaps some sport on BBC2?

19:00 Snooker, widescreen
20:00 Speaker, widescreen
21:00 Cruickshank on Kew, widescreen

or football on ITV?

19:30 CHampions League, widescreen
22:00 ITV News at Ten and WEATHER, widescreen

It seems to me like *every* program is widescreen.

> Personally, I just avoid watching TV at all. Watching the adverts is like 
> being on a bad acid trip (I'm not kidding!), and most of the programs are 
> rubbish these days anyway...

I tend to mostly watch sport and the news, not much else, luckily all of 
that is widescreen so I never notice any problem :-)


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From: scott
Subject: Re: High rez versus high refresh...
Date: 28 Apr 2009 05:05:43
Message: <49f6c6e7@news.povray.org>
> I meant more that I'm not sure how to make it output a video signal on 
> that port.

Usually something like Fn+F5 (there should be a little icon next to the 
key).  Or just go to display properties and tell it to output on both 
monitors.

> ...of course, maybe it's not really HDMI, just normal DVI. But the product 
> documentation claims it's HDMI.

The video signal is electrically the same, just different connectors on the 
end.  You can buy a cheap cable with an HDMI plug on one end and a DVI plug 
on the other end if you want to connect between things (I have this to 
connect my PC with DVI output to the TV with HDMI input).


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