Jim Henderson wrote:
> True, but sometimes a bicycle is all you need, you don't need a 747 to
> take you to the corner market. ;-)

A coworker told me he once went to IBM to work for a project, and the other
people there would start Rational Software Architect every time they had to
change a line of a config file *sigh*

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Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> I find vi to be completely intuitive.
> 
>   You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "intuitive".
> 
>   Intuitive means that its basic operations can be used by someone who
> has never used the program before.
> 
>   Intuitive does not mean that you find it easy to use after having years
> of experience.
> 

Vi is more intuitive. p to paste instead of something silly like Ctrl-V.

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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> It would seem notepad is as "intuitive" (with arrow keys, mouse clicks
>> to position the cursor, etc) as any other Windows program, while neither
>> emacs nor vi can be driven at all without learning how to run them.
> 
> 20-years vi hacker comes in touch with notepad for the first time:
> iWhat the crap is this thing?
> :wq
> iCrap!  How do I kill this process??!!
> ZZ
> :q!!!

I once found myself pressing Esc a lot on POV-Win.

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triple_r wrote:
> Like my email messages, "Here's the file, do you think you could printf
> this out
> for me?"  I wish I could say I've only done that once.

I mistype "myself" as "mysqlf" quite often. I notice when I'm about to press
the 'f' :)

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Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Vi is more intuitive. p to paste instead of something silly like Ctrl-V.

  When I press the 'p' key, for some odd reason my intuitive expectation
is for the letter 'p' to appear at the cursor's position, but that might
be just me.

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Darren New wrote:

> 
> What character sequence do you think the backspace key *should* send?
> 

Why, the OEM keycode for the backspace key, of course ... Duh!

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Darren New wrote:
> What character sequence do you think the backspace key *should* send?

See the link I posted?

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Warp wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Vi is more intuitive. p to paste instead of something silly like Ctrl-V.
> 
>   When I press the 'p' key, for some odd reason my intuitive expectation
> is for the letter 'p' to appear at the cursor's position, but that might
> be just me.

And that's what Vim does, when you're in insert mode. In normal mode, it
pastes.

Hey, when you press 'p' on Windows while a menu is open, what does it do?

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Warp wrote:

>   When I press the 'p' key, for some odd reason my intuitive expectation
> is for the letter 'p' to appear at the cursor's position, but that might
> be just me.

No. Too easy.

I've used VI for a semester in a college computer science course.

I learned to hate it.

BTW, where did the combinations Ctrl-Ins(Copy), Shift-Del(Cut) and 
Shift-Ins(Paste) come from? I remember them from the DOS text editors 
for QuickBASIC and such...


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~Mike

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Darren New escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Darren New escreveu:
>>> nemesis wrote:
>>>> Batch editing with pipes and sed has no place in today's fast-paced 
>>>> interactive programming.
>>>
>>> Heh heh heh.
>>
>> Is that a sed programmer laugh? :)
> 
> No. That's from someone who just went thru 250+ directories, found all 
> the files with the string SDL or sdl in the file name, directory name, 
> or inside the files, and duplicated it to another file, directory, or 
> #ifdef section within the file, as appropriate.
> 
> Do that interactively? I'd still be at it.

True, that excellent use for the batch tools.  That's also not typical 
source code editing.

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