Mike Raiford escreveu:
> Invisible wrote:
> 
>> Does anybody know what the hell "C-u 10 C-f" is actually supposed to 
>> mean? What the heck is a "meta key"? Why are cut and past called kill 
>> and yank? The list of questions goes on and on.
> 
> which does which? Kill I imagine deletes the text. Yank I guess is 
> similar to a copy then delete operation.
> 
> I'm sure there's a way to remap keyboard operations.

Well, right arrow and Ctrl+right arrow already do the same as Ctrl+f and 
Alt+f for those people who enjoy getting their hands away from editing 
keys once in a while.  But what I truly wonder is what standard 
Microsoft keyboard mapping will you map the move-by-sentence and 
move-by-paragraph with among many others...

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heh, nothing like seeing someone learning a bit of Lisp. ;)

BTW, elisp is kinda meh... :P

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Warp wrote:

>   Can notepad automatically color your code? Can it autoindent your code?
> Can you perform a search&replace using a regexp? Can you hex-edit a binary
> file (with a typical hex editor layout)? Can you convert between DOS and
> UNIX newlines?
> 
>   Can you configure a key combination to scroll the view one line at a
> time while keeping the cursor visually in place, and another key
> combination to scroll the view one line at a time while keeping the
> cursor in its current line in the text? Can you configure a key combination
> to insert a binary file at the cursor position uuencoded?
> 
>   Does notepad support versioning (eg. with git or svn)?
> 
>   How many operating systems has notepad been ported to?

OK, so nobody is _seriously_ suggesting that Notepad is a good text 
editor. But, for example, SciTE quite happily syntax hilights code, 
autoindents it, closes XML tags for you, does search and replace, 
converts between DOS and UNIX newlines, and has a bazillion 
configuration options. It can also call external compilers and viewers 
and so forth.

It's true that SciTE doesn't allow configuration down to the level that 
Emacs evidently does. (E.g., you can't *arbitrarily* remap keys. You 
can't build whole new syntax hilighting rules, only tweak existing ones. 
Etc.)

My goal here is not really to prove that Notepad is better than Emacs - 
Notepad is obviously inferior to just about every editor known to man. 
I'm just trying to find out what Emacs users consider to be its strengths.

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nemesis wrote:
> heh, nothing like seeing someone learning a bit of Lisp. ;)
> 
> BTW, elisp is kinda meh... :P

You thank elisp is bad - try looking at VBA! o_O

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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Notepad is obviously inferior to just about every editor known to man. 

  You have clearly never used edlin.

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Warp escreveu:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Notepad is obviously inferior to just about every editor known to man. 
> 
>   You have clearly never used edlin.
> 

ed is the standard editor, man.  man ed.

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Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Notepad is obviously inferior to just about every editor known to man. 
> 
>   You have clearly never used edlin.

edlin at least is programmable. ;-)

(I'm pretty sure I recall seeing shell scripts that generate edlin 
scripts that do useful stuff. Notepad would be useless here.)

But yes, I take your point. Indeed, I almost mentioned it in my original 
post...

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On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:40:54 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> So what is it that Emacs does
> that's so awesom? What can it do that Notepad can't?

emacs is a religion.  Notepad isn't.

Jim

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somebody wrote:
> "Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
>> What is it, exactly, that makes Emacs so fantastic? What does it
>> actually *do* beyond being a text editor?
> 
> Lots. But its household name is historical, goes back to the dark ages of
> computing. There are dozens of quite decent free text editors nowadays (see
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_text_editors ).

Decent is not enough when you're used to the best. ;)

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:40:54 +0100, Invisible wrote:
> 
>> So what is it that Emacs does
>> that's so awesom? What can it do that Notepad can't?
> 
> emacs is a religion.  Notepad isn't.

Yes, emacs can move mountains. ;)

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