Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   You are probably right: The damage has already been done and there's
> > nothing MS can do to fix it.

> Exactly.

  But they could at least try, rather than keep making an ass of themselves.

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nemesis wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez escreveu:
>> Or the time I saw her very quickly click on all the FlashBlock
>> placeholders on a Flash-heavy page (it was clear she had done that a
>> dozen times). She didn't ever think there had to be an easier way (there
>> is a domain whitelist).
> 
> FlashBlock?!  My sister won't even touch Firefox!  Anytime I'm at my
> parent's and leave the computer for others to use -- it's a single
> Windows passwordless session (because it's "easy") -- I leave Firefox
> open with a clean new tab.  First thing she does is close Firefox and
> click on the old blue e.  It's like dog conditioning, I guess, because
> she seems to not even realize it's a web browser sitting just before
> her...

I used to use that machine until I got a new one, so it has four passworded
accounts, one for each family member.

IE isn't used in any machine in my house :)

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Warp wrote:
>   But they could at least try, rather than keep making an ass of themselves.

Like what? I'm not sure what they do that's "making an ass of themselves" 
that's anywhere near as bad as Apple mocking them, for example.

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   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   But they could at least try, rather than keep making an ass of themselves.

> Like what?

  Like Steve Ballmer stopping making himself the laughingstock of the
world year after year.

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Invisible escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
> 
>> FlashBlock?!  My sister won't even touch Firefox!  Anytime I'm at my 
>> parent's and leave the computer for others to use -- it's a single 
>> Windows passwordless session (because it's "easy") -- I leave Firefox 
>> open with a clean new tab.  First thing she does is close Firefox and 
>> click on the old blue e.  It's like dog conditioning, I guess, because 
>> she seems to not even realize it's a web browser sitting just before 
>> her...
> 
> ...did you just call somebody a dog? ;-)

yes, my sister actually.  It's ok between brothers.  I call her stupid, 
she calls me nerd. ;)

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Warp escreveu:
> nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> FlashBlock?!  My sister won't even touch Firefox!  Anytime I'm at my 
>> parent's and leave the computer for others to use -- it's a single 
>> Windows passwordless session (because it's "easy") -- I leave Firefox 
>> open with a clean new tab.  First thing she does is close Firefox and 
>> click on the old blue e.  It's like dog conditioning, I guess, because 
>> she seems to not even realize it's a web browser sitting just before her...
> 
>   Download an IE skin for Firefox and change Firefox's icon to that of IE.
> See how long it takes for her to notice there's something wrong with it.

I might try that.  I remember at University I used to change the IE icon 
to point to Firefox in every station I got to. :D

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Nicolas Alvarez escreveu:
> I used to use that machine until I got a new one, so it has four passworded
> accounts, one for each family member.

While I lived in the house, the PC was organized that way, yes.  Once I 
left, they felt there should be an easier way. :P

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Warp wrote:
>   Like Steve Ballmer stopping making himself the laughingstock of the
> world year after year.

Hey, it works for Madonna. At least you know what *his* focus is. :-)

Somehow, I don't see him being all suave like Jobs. And unlike Apple 
computers, people don't generally make the buying decisions on Windows 
enterprise servers based on whether the CEO jumps around a bunch at product 
launches. :-)

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   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:01:03 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:26:24 -0500, Warp wrote:
> 
>> >   If Microsoft (and especially Steve Ballmer) stopped trolling around
>> >   and
>> > concentrated only on what they are good at, they could get a better
>> > reputation. But no. I think that at least with Steve Ballmer it's
>> > some kind of odd twisted imago reputation which he *wants* to
>> > maintain, for some incomprehensible reason.
> 
>> For Ballmer (and Gates before him), it's all about control.  They don't
>> like what they can't control, so they have to either try to control it
>> or destroy it.
> 
>   And that's why he always tries as hard as possible to become the
> laughing stock of the internet with his stupid antics?

I have a feeling that he really doesn't care what other people think of 
him.  As much as he's worth, why should he?

Jim

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Warp wrote:

>   Download an IE skin for Firefox and change Firefox's icon to that of IE.
> See how long it takes for her to notice there's something wrong with it.

I'm guessing the first time she visits a site that demands ActiveX...?

Still, that's one way to get people to use sane software. ;-) I wonder 
if you can do something similar for OpenOffice? (Although, to be honest, 
you wouldn't need to change *that* many things...)

Also... I remember having a conversation that went something like this:

Me: Dude, you don't seriously use IE, do you?
Her: No, don't be stupid! I use Avant.
Me: ...

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