Warp wrote:
>   You are probably right: The damage has already been done and there's
> nothing MS can do to fix it.

Exactly.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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Invisible wrote:
> M$ has somehow succeeded in convincing people that it is somehow 
> "normal" for computers to not work correctly.

Not really. Personal computers never worked consistently right. Mainframes, 
yes, but not micros or PCs.  (And by PC, I mean everything from TRS-80 to 
Apple ][ to Commodore PET to ...)

> I mean, if your car occasionally stalled for no apparent reason, you'd 
> demand to have it fixed. But if your computer sometimes doesn't work, 
> everybody seems to think that that's just "how it is", and that this 
> incorrect behaviour is somehow "acceptable".

Because nobody really understands how a computer is *supposed* to work. 
Those that do hang out on geek lists and bitch about how broken they are.

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   You are probably right: The damage has already been done and there's
> > nothing MS can do to fix it.

> Exactly.

  But they could at least try, rather than keep making an ass of themselves.

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nemesis wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez escreveu:
>> Or the time I saw her very quickly click on all the FlashBlock
>> placeholders on a Flash-heavy page (it was clear she had done that a
>> dozen times). She didn't ever think there had to be an easier way (there
>> is a domain whitelist).
> 
> FlashBlock?!  My sister won't even touch Firefox!  Anytime I'm at my
> parent's and leave the computer for others to use -- it's a single
> Windows passwordless session (because it's "easy") -- I leave Firefox
> open with a clean new tab.  First thing she does is close Firefox and
> click on the old blue e.  It's like dog conditioning, I guess, because
> she seems to not even realize it's a web browser sitting just before
> her...

I used to use that machine until I got a new one, so it has four passworded
accounts, one for each family member.

IE isn't used in any machine in my house :)

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Warp wrote:
>   But they could at least try, rather than keep making an ass of themselves.

Like what? I'm not sure what they do that's "making an ass of themselves" 
that's anywhere near as bad as Apple mocking them, for example.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   But they could at least try, rather than keep making an ass of themselves.

> Like what?

  Like Steve Ballmer stopping making himself the laughingstock of the
world year after year.

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Invisible escreveu:
> nemesis wrote:
> 
>> FlashBlock?!  My sister won't even touch Firefox!  Anytime I'm at my 
>> parent's and leave the computer for others to use -- it's a single 
>> Windows passwordless session (because it's "easy") -- I leave Firefox 
>> open with a clean new tab.  First thing she does is close Firefox and 
>> click on the old blue e.  It's like dog conditioning, I guess, because 
>> she seems to not even realize it's a web browser sitting just before 
>> her...
> 
> ...did you just call somebody a dog? ;-)

yes, my sister actually.  It's ok between brothers.  I call her stupid, 
she calls me nerd. ;)

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Warp escreveu:
> nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> FlashBlock?!  My sister won't even touch Firefox!  Anytime I'm at my 
>> parent's and leave the computer for others to use -- it's a single 
>> Windows passwordless session (because it's "easy") -- I leave Firefox 
>> open with a clean new tab.  First thing she does is close Firefox and 
>> click on the old blue e.  It's like dog conditioning, I guess, because 
>> she seems to not even realize it's a web browser sitting just before her...
> 
>   Download an IE skin for Firefox and change Firefox's icon to that of IE.
> See how long it takes for her to notice there's something wrong with it.

I might try that.  I remember at University I used to change the IE icon 
to point to Firefox in every station I got to. :D

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Nicolas Alvarez escreveu:
> I used to use that machine until I got a new one, so it has four passworded
> accounts, one for each family member.

While I lived in the house, the PC was organized that way, yes.  Once I 
left, they felt there should be an easier way. :P

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Warp wrote:
>   Like Steve Ballmer stopping making himself the laughingstock of the
> world year after year.

Hey, it works for Madonna. At least you know what *his* focus is. :-)

Somehow, I don't see him being all suave like Jobs. And unlike Apple 
computers, people don't generally make the buying decisions on Windows 
enterprise servers based on whether the CEO jumps around a bunch at product 
launches. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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