"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
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> somebody wrote:

> > To each his own, but no matter how many times I see or hear about the
> > apparently happy coexistence of blatantly conflicting ideologies within
> > people's minds, I cannot but grin.

> To each his own, but no matter how many times I hear monotheists assume
that
> everyone referring to god must intend that monotheist's interpretation of
> their own god's holy scriptures, I have to grimace.

I've yet to see a polytheist (let's not split hairs with trinity, remnants
or elements of polytheism), and hardly a non-Christian for that matter,
utter the words "God bless you", so I tend to believe it's a comparatively
safe assumption. What is much less safe is to assume it's a monotheist doing
the aforementioned assuming.

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somebody wrote:
> "Saul Luizaga" <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote
> 
>> I have read in the Haskell site that the best way to learn Haskell is
>> from a book, so I've downloaded a couple (don't ask from where since
>> those are illegal ways,
> 
> [...]
> 
>> God bless you all.
> 
> To each his own, but no matter how many times I see or hear about the
> apparently happy coexistence of blatantly conflicting ideologies within
> people's minds, I cannot but grin.
> 
> 
So u assume that If I belive in God (my conception is the maker of ALL 
even your soul, I believe that He came to be with us a Jesus Christ) I'm 
not Catholic anymore or any CHristian religion, I'm a spiritual 
Christian) I'll not do wrong things? Well I have seen religious and 
"better" Christian than me, act in the most hypocrite way possible to 
their proxy, my fault is from need, this book wont be probably read by 
anybody else in my whole Country and the BSA only make pay for software 
licenses to institutions, Universities, companies and other entities 
that can actually pay for it since they are making money our of it and 
have enough, the BSA understands that a third world Country can't be 
left out of modern technology coz would be even poorer and in a way of 
helping ppl here they don't go house by house making an auditory of 
software. I hope u understand why ppl in poor Countries need to pirate 
software, and also against all odds ppl here also buy (legally) software 
when is rare and they "don't have to".

  Hence some software companies like Avast! and other give their 
software free for home office. believe me I'd pay for software if I 
could earn enough as some people actually do in my country although is 
still rare.

I'm using utilities and other software to give support to PCs/Notebooks 
as freeware as I can since they're are not only in many cases easy to 
use and effective u don't need to download a crack/keygen that can 
infect ur PC/Notebook with a lethal virus, or other inconvinients.

I'm not legal for these reasons but I feel no shame either, I hate MS 
and I need the rest of the software.

I actually don't need/have to explain this to you but I do coz some ppl 
here can't simply understand why oh why ppl pirate software since the 
pirates actually bite the hand than gives them the bread.

Believe me, I have no conflict about it, but I know that I could do 
better if I had more money. I'm working on getting my Eng. degree to 
have more. Yeah I'M A PIRATE, u don't need to write to me at all.

Cheers.

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Saul Luizaga wrote:
  >  Hence some software companies like Avast! and other give their 
software
> free for home *use*.

I correct myself.

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> better if I had more money. I'm working on getting my Eng. degree to have 
> more.

Nah, just carry on stealing software, it's way easier than an Engineering 
degree :-)

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"Saul Luizaga" <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote in message
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> somebody wrote:
> > "Saul Luizaga" <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote

> >> I have read in the Haskell site that the best way to learn Haskell is
> >> from a book, so I've downloaded a couple (don't ask from where since
> >> those are illegal ways,
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> God bless you all.

> > To each his own, but no matter how many times I see or hear about the
> > apparently happy coexistence of blatantly conflicting ideologies within
> > people's minds, I cannot but grin.

[...]
> Believe me, I have no conflict about it,
[...]

Yes, that's the part I said I found funny. And really, it's both unnecessary
and futile for you to try justify it.

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I know is unnecessary, I already wrote it, and I'm not just justifying 
it but explaining it. I don't care it get justified I thought was 
something I needed to write. I hope u never get to live in a 3rd world 
country and live on a local salary to actually understand the why, u 
don't care enough to imagine it and suffering it would be too much for u.

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scott wrote:
>> better if I had more money. I'm working on getting my Eng. degree to 
>> have more.
> 
> Nah, just carry on stealing software, it's way easier than an 
> Engineering degree :-)

Well if ppl in the USA don't mind well, ok, fine by me :)

Believe it or not ppl in here ger more and more conscious that they're 
using pirated software. I'm hopping my Country gets to a 1st world like 
EU or USA/Canada where we can live and buy as u do.

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"Saul Luizaga" <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote

> I know is unnecessary, I already wrote it, and I'm not just justifying
> it but explaining it. I don't care it get justified I thought was
> something I needed to write. I hope u never get to live in a 3rd world
> country and live on a local salary to actually understand the why, u
> don't care enough to imagine it and suffering it would be too much for u.

Truth be told, I really cannot imagine a circumstance under which not
pirating Haskell books would cause suffering for me, but I'm ready to take
your word for it.

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somebody wrote:
> "Saul Luizaga" <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote
> 
> Truth be told, I really cannot imagine a circumstance under which not
> pirating Haskell books would cause suffering for me, but I'm ready to take
> your word for it.

I once upon a time made a google search about PC tech jobs, I found an 
offer in the UK that payed 200 Pounds a day for it, but the tech would 
be available on call 24/7. For me wasn't a big deal for the amount of 
money. Here in Bolivia i make 180 US$ a month which most of it if for 
services and food, so u can see the differences, buying a PC is a 
sacrifice, paying for software would be like buying another 2 PCs.

As a funny fact: the first time I saw a 'COMPUTER SHOPPER' magazine I 
was surprised that they offered software for a price with a new PC since 
here was always free for a new PC. U can buy very expensive programs 
like AutoCAD 2008 for about 2 US$ if the program is 1 DVD, 1.5 US$ if 
it's 1 CD, and so on. Now with torrents has become a way of living for 
some ppl, the persons that sell are some times ppl that don't know what 
they sell, they were hired to do the job. U can find a great variety of 
the most popular software here, all kinds, some "stores" has a website 
with a forums and has received formal threats from the BSA, but no 
closure so far and other 'stores' are doing the same.

Another funny fact: For some software would be cheaper for any of u 
"legal guys" to fly here "buy" the software and fly bak to ur countries :D.

U may thing is easy life here with such convenient software availability 
but no actually things suck very much, u have almost no rights here even 
when there is laws and Human Rights type organizations, justice is 
luxury u must pay, here in my job my own boss stoles sells from me to 
avoid giving me commissions, I can't quit coz I still need this 
miserable job. So, the sacrifice would be stop eating, transporting to 
my job or not having electricity, land phone or water or Internet to pay 
any software. I have no social life coz I can't pay for it. Fair enough 
for u? or I need to be more miserable to fit ur conscience criteria? I'm 
asking this rhetorically, as I said my conscience is at peace.

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"Saul Luizaga" <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote in message
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> somebody wrote:
> > "Saul Luizaga" <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote

> > Truth be told, I really cannot imagine a circumstance under which not
> > pirating Haskell books would cause suffering for me, but I'm ready to
take
> > your word for it.

[...]
> miserable job. So, the sacrifice would be stop eating, transporting to
> my job or not having electricity, land phone or water or Internet to pay
> any software. I have no social life coz I can't pay for it. Fair enough
> for u? or I need to be more miserable to fit ur conscience criteria?

I don't remember saying stealing is OK so long as you are poor and
miserable. In fact, I think abiding by ethical principles only when
convenient is, well, not really much of a virtue, but that's just me. You
are entitled to your own philosophy.

> I'm asking this rhetorically, as I said my conscience is at peace.

Ah, then I'm answering rhetorically as well.

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