Warp wrote:
>   And as long as you don't leave the "free speech zone"? ;)

Someone told me that the reason people used soapboxes to make speeches was
that there was a law that you couldn't speak against the government if you
were standing on the country's territory, or some similar wording. So they
stood on soapboxes to avoid touching the country's soil with their feet :)

I should probably check snopes.com about it right now.

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> That's like sayin DARPA was commissioned to design a system for mass
> porn dissemination! o_O
> 

Excuse me?

"The Internet is for Porn" remember?

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Darren New wrote:
> Or being a soldier.

"Legal" doesn't mean "good", but ok...

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Invisible wrote:
> Now, see, if I paid money to access the Internet, and then my ISP tried
> to prevent me accessing the Internet, I'd be... quite upset.

But you signed a contract saying they're allowed to do such throttling ;)

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Invisible wrote:
> Well then if the TOS says "you cannot use protocol X", you go find a
> different ISP.

They don't say that.

All ISPs say "you can't pirate stuff over our networks" (duh).
Some ISPs say "we may block stuff if we think it's good for the network"
(and it is; the BitTorrent protocol is a significant percentage of many
ISPs' traffic, so blocking it would "help the network")

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Darren New wrote:
>>     Not in the US. If your protests indeed disrupt the government, or
>> traffic, or so many other things, you get in trouble.
> 
> The protests are supposed to disrupt the government. It's *supposed* to
> be OK, as long as it's peaceful.

	Well, exactly how can they "disrupt the government" while being "peaceful"?

	You're suggesting that if they could find a way to prevent Congress
from going into session peacefully and indefinitely, then it'll be OK?

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Darren New wrote:
> Unfortunately, choice is rather limited in most places, due to
> government interference.

	Could you elaborate? In a few isolated places in the US, the choice is
limited because the companies sued whenever the government tried
providing free Internet...

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Invisible wrote:
> Well then if the TOS says "you cannot use protocol X", you go find a
> different ISP.

	Which has the same clause in their TOS.


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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>>>     Not in the US. If your protests indeed disrupt the government, or
>>> traffic, or so many other things, you get in trouble.
>> The protests are supposed to disrupt the government. It's *supposed* to
>> be OK, as long as it's peaceful.
> 
> 	Well, exactly how can they "disrupt the government" while being "peaceful"?

Well, OK.  You can certainly disrupt government plans without disrupting 
the government as such. That's kind of the wonders of democracy.

Sure, if you actually prevent the government from governing, you're 
breaking the law.

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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)

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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Or being a soldier.
> 
> "Legal" doesn't mean "good", but ok...

I wasn't saying whether it was legal *or* good, but only why "guns were 
made".  Most cops go their entire careers without having to shoot 
anyone, let alone kill them.

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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)

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