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From: Warp
Subject: Re: YouTube lameness
Date: 14 Nov 2008 11:07:47
Message: <491da253@news.povray.org>
scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> Well given that piracy is illegal, it seems a legitimate target for the 
> censors, but as with all these sort of schemes there will always be a way 
> around them and new ways of pirating software will pop up.  Just look what 
> happened with Napster when it was shut down, up popped bitTorrent.  If 
> suddenly they start censoring all sites that link to torrents, then I'm 100% 
> sure some new method will be invented that makes it impossible to censor 
> using the existing scheme.  By the time a new scheme is dreamt up to fight 
> the pirates, another system will be in place, it's endless.

  And western countries will become no better than China in their
totalitarian censorship policies...

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Mike the Elder
Subject: Re: YouTube lameness
Date: 14 Nov 2008 13:15:00
Message: <web.491dbdaeb823233cad9dd8b40@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> ...
>
>   Software pirate mentality is one of the worst things that really grinds
> my gears. People who pirate software and have this kind of attitude are
> the worst moral scum on earth.
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp
>
Prior to this bit of hyperbole, you made a number of good points that I
generally agree with, but "the worst moral scum on earth"? Really? Good golly
gee willikers, man! (Sorry for the strong language, but my gears get a tad
asynchronous at times as well.) Do you realize that there are villains out



urging others do the same.  I do, however, have a point of view that differs


great majority of vendors would bring me down to their moral level, which is
more than sufficient impetus to prevent me from doing so. (Some indie folks and
the like are notable exceptions.) A large company that starts with an actual
product in order to initiate commercial intercourse (pun intended) and then
adds on every sort of deception, misdirection, hidden restriction and
misleading condition that they can possibly imagine to get as deeply into the

software pirates, but they are no less thieves in the moral sense.

I never have and, most likely, never will buy into the notion that having enough





forth by its corporate giants.



Best Regards,
Mike C.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: YouTube lameness
Date: 14 Nov 2008 13:15:02
Message: <491dc026$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> As somebody once said, "trying to make data not copiably is like trying 
> to make water not wet".

No, it's like making money that's impossible to counterfeit.

Yes, it's really trivial to do that. What's hard is making money that 
only one organization (i.e., the central bank) can counterfeit.

Making data that you can't decrypt is easy these days. Making data that 
you can only decrypt in certain ways for certain purposes is hard.

Of course, it's still copyable. But the point of DRM is to make copying 
useless, not impossible.

> Even assuming you somehow manage to do this (how long have guns been 
> illegal in my country?)

Guns are easy to make. :-)

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: YouTube lameness
Date: 14 Nov 2008 13:16:30
Message: <491dc07e$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> Quite often with new software I YouTube for "<software> tutorial",

You Suck At Photoshop.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: YouTube lameness
Date: 14 Nov 2008 14:13:06
Message: <491dcdc2@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> You Suck At Photoshop.

I know that. What's your point?

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: YouTube lameness
Date: 14 Nov 2008 14:21:58
Message: <491dcfd6@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> 
>> You Suck At Photoshop.
> 
> I know that. What's your point?

   <eyeroll>

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: YouTube lameness
Date: 14 Nov 2008 20:32:14
Message: <491e269e@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   And this is only if I'm not concentrating on anything. If I'm
>   concentrating
> on something (eg. work or reading), the music is immensely distracting. It
> makes it very hard to concentrate. I need silence, please.

Since I *can't* get silence in my house, I prefer to add music on top.

If my mom is in the house, the radio is on; always. The washing machine is
also close enough to be super-annoying.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: YouTube lameness
Date: 14 Nov 2008 20:32:56
Message: <491e26c8@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> 
>>   And this is only if I'm not concentrating on anything. If I'm 
>> concentrating
>> on something (eg. work or reading), the music is immensely 
>> distracting. It
>> makes it very hard to concentrate. I need silence, please.
> 
> I *like* music and even I agree with this...

I like to program with Bach on the background. In fact, music can also 
be a wonderful firewall to noisy environments.  :)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: YouTube lameness
Date: 15 Nov 2008 10:52:03
Message: <491ef023@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> If my mom is in the house, the radio is on; always.

  I think I would go crazy if I had to live in a place where there's a
constant racket of music.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: YouTube lameness
Date: 15 Nov 2008 14:03:31
Message: <491f1d03@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   I think I would go crazy if I had to live in a place where there's a
> constant racket of music.

That's the thing, the radio station she listens to is not music, mostly
news.


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