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From: scott
Subject: Re: Nerd joke variation
Date: 16 Oct 2008 10:05:18
Message: <48f74a1e$1@news.povray.org>
> That would be 10.0011, wouldn't it?
> Still, rather neat.
>
> Hmm, actually 10.01 gives the same result.
>
> bisqwit@chii:~$ bc -l
> x=(1+sqrt(5))/2;
> x^1+x^-3+x^-4
> 1.99999999999999999999
> x^1+x^-2
> 1.99999999999999999999

Tut tut, youth of today, taking short cuts with numerical methods ... just 
do the algebra and you'll see they are both *exactly* 2, not this 
1.9999999999 mess ;-)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Nerd joke variation
Date: 16 Oct 2008 10:13:45
Message: <48f74c19$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> Tut tut, youth of today, taking short cuts with numerical methods ... 
> just do the algebra and you'll see they are both *exactly* 2, not this 
> 1.9999999999 mess ;-)

...says the guy who thinks that "1/0" is a definite value. :-P



Hmm, let's see now...

φ = (1 + sqrt(5)) / 2

φ + 1 = (1 + sqrt(5)) / 2 + 1 = (3 + sqrt(5)) / 2

φ^2 = (1 + sqrt(5))^2 / 4 = (1 + 2 sqrt(5) + 5) / 4 = 1/4 + sqrt(5)/2 + 5/4

Nope, sorry, I'm not seeing it.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Nerd joke variation
Date: 16 Oct 2008 10:36:35
Message: <48f75173$1@news.povray.org>
> Hmm, let's see now...
>
> φ = (1 + sqrt(5)) / 2
>
> φ + 1 = (1 + sqrt(5)) / 2 + 1 = (3 + sqrt(5)) / 2
>
> φ^2 = (1 + sqrt(5))^2 / 4 = (1 + 2 sqrt(5) + 5) / 4 = 1/4 + sqrt(5)/2 + 
> 5/4
>
> Nope, sorry, I'm not seeing it.

You just need to do a couple more steps:

1/4 + sqrt(5)/2 + 5/4
=
6/4 + sqrt(5)/2
=
3/2 + sqrt(5)/2
=
(3+sqrt(5))/2

:-)

Or you can just solve x+1=x^2 your favourite way.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Nerd joke variation
Date: 16 Oct 2008 11:02:04
Message: <48f7576c@news.povray.org>
>> Nope, sorry, I'm not seeing it.
> 
> You just need to do a couple more steps:
> 
> 1/4 + sqrt(5)/2 + 5/4
> =
> 6/4 + sqrt(5)/2
> =
> 3/2 + sqrt(5)/2
> =
> (3+sqrt(5))/2
> 
> :-)

I failed to notice the two constant terms at opposite ends of the 
equation. Clearly I need to invent that CAS real soon now... o_O

> Or you can just solve x+1=x^2 your favourite way.

Yeah, I guess.


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