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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: 10000 BC
Date: 8 Oct 2008 08:29:46
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
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> - The first Egyptian pyramids were not constructed until about 3000 BC.
>
> - Overall, complex cities and buildings were not developed until about
>  that time, ie. 3000 BC.

haha .... that's what I zeroed in on when the trailers for the theatrical 
release was going around.

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 10000 BC
Date: 8 Oct 2008 09:07:56
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Jim Holsenback <jho### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
> news:48ebb22a@news.povray.org...
> > - The first Egyptian pyramids were not constructed until about 3000 BC.
> >
> > - Overall, complex cities and buildings were not developed until about
> >  that time, ie. 3000 BC.

> haha .... that's what I zeroed in on when the trailers for the theatrical 
> release was going around.

  You mean the trailers spoiled the egyptian pyramids? In the movie that
was not really shown until quite late in the movie, and could be regarded
as somewhat of a surprise.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: 10000 BC
Date: 8 Oct 2008 12:13:26
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
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>  You mean the trailers spoiled the egyptian pyramids? In the movie that
> was not really shown until quite late in the movie, and could be regarded
> as somewhat of a surprise.

As I recall the notion of cities is what bugged me .... Caves, grog, and 
maybe fire, but cities NO! You are correct! I don't recall pyramids in the 
trailer .... that would have been as you said too BIG of a spoiler.

Jim


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: 10000 BC
Date: 8 Oct 2008 13:57:39
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Warp wrote:
> Xavier Manget <NOS### [at] nospamfreefr> wrote:
>> Warp, you're not expected to *think* when you go and see a popcorn movie... 
>> ;-)
> 
>   As I commented, there's a limit to the willing suspension of disbelief.

	Yes, but your limit isn't large. I bet 90% of viewers didn't notice any
of the flaws you mentioned.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 10000 BC
Date: 8 Oct 2008 14:33:41
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Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Xavier Manget <NOS### [at] nospamfreefr> wrote:
> >> Warp, you're not expected to *think* when you go and see a popcorn movie... 
> >> ;-)
> > 
> >   As I commented, there's a limit to the willing suspension of disbelief.

>         Yes, but your limit isn't large. I bet 90% of viewers didn't notice any
> of the flaws you mentioned.

  That's probably because 90% of the viewers haven't read their books... ;)

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 10000 BC
Date: 8 Oct 2008 14:57:29
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Btw, is it just me, or did the baddies sound like the Goa'uld?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: m a r c
Subject: Re: 10000 BC
Date: 8 Oct 2008 17:13:26
Message: <48ed2276@news.povray.org>

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> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message 
> news:48ecb0ac@news.povray.org...
>>  You mean the trailers spoiled the egyptian pyramids? In the movie that
>> was not really shown until quite late in the movie, and could be regarded
>> as somewhat of a surprise.
>
> As I recall the notion of cities is what bugged me .... Caves, grog, and 
> maybe fire, but cities NO! You are correct! I don't recall pyramids in the 
> trailer .... that would have been as you said too BIG of a spoiler.
>
> Jim
I didn't see it but I thing I'll look at it as a fantasy.
http://www.ecranlarge.com/movie_video-view-4759-688.php

Marc


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From: Tim Attwood
Subject: Re: 10000 BC
Date: 8 Oct 2008 21:33:16
Message: <48ed5f5c$1@news.povray.org>
>  This must be the movie with the biggest amount of anachronisms I have 
> ever
> seen. It feels like they were deliberately trying to put as many 
> anachronism
> as they could in the movie, plus other inaccuracies. Artistic license is
> understandable, but there are some limits to willing suspension of 
> disbelief.

Just to be fair, I have to point out that there are quite a few
popular counter-culture examples of the current understanding of
pre-history being wrong.

I haven't seen the movie, but I understand it loosely follows
Graham Hancock's theories about pre-history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham_Hancock

Autopsies on frozen mammoths often find vegetation they ate was
not typical of the current climate.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v14/i3/mammoth.asp

Rain weathering marks on embankments near the sphinx
are suggested by some to place the dating near 10000 BC.
http://www.robertschoch.com/Sphinx_Geology.html

The largest early Greek ships are known to have been in excess of 200 feet 
long.
http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/ships/ancient_greek_ships/index.shtml

Some early Egyptian mummies (1000 BC) have large amounts of
cocaine and nicotine in them, both coca and tobacco are commonly
thought to have been traded from the Americas only after Columbus.
http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/ethnic/mummy.htm

Corn is depicted in Ming dynasty Chinese art. (1368 AD)
http://yakushi.pharm.or.jp/FULL_TEXT/125_7/pdf/583.pdf


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From: Halbert
Subject: Re: 10000 BC
Date: 9 Oct 2008 12:44:38
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> Rain weathering marks on embankments near the sphinx
> are suggested by some to place the dating near 10000 BC.
> http://www.robertschoch.com/Sphinx_Geology.html
>

But one thing is for sure though, the pyramids are not close to 12000 years 
old. There is clear evidence of when they were constructed and by whom.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 10000 BC
Date: 10 Oct 2008 01:40:55
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Halbert wrote:
> But one thing is for sure though, the pyramids are not close to 12000 years 
> old. There is clear evidence of when they were constructed and by whom. 

I read that what they found when they recently looked at the stones of 
the Egyptian pyramids with a microscope is ground up limestone slurry. 
That is to say, they aren't giant blocks of stones hoisted into place. 
They're poured concrete.

Explains quite a lot, doesn't it?

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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