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Stephen wrote:
> There is also "skimming" to take into account.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skimming_%28credit_card_fraud%29#Skimming
> Cash is anonymous and safe to use. Also it is quicker to get the transaction
> through a till if the shop is using a dial up connection.
Yeah the speed/convenience does depend on circumstance. For instance it
cuts two ways with me. At the gas pump the card is faster and more
convenient than having to walk some cash over to the bullet-proof booth,
maybe wait in a line, overpay, then walk back, pump the gas, then back
over to the cashier to get any change. But in the taxi, waiting for a
customer to pay with a card slows things way down. Utterly frustrating
to loose a fare to another cab because you can't get your current people
out of the car fast enough. And then of course there is the wait to get
your receipts from the dispatcher at the end of the shift.
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:30:20 -0400, Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msn com> wrote:
>Yeah the speed/convenience does depend on circumstance. For instance it
>cuts two ways with me. At the gas pump the card is faster and more
>convenient than having to walk some cash over to the bullet-proof booth,
>maybe wait in a line, overpay, then walk back, pump the gas, then back
>over to the cashier to get any change. But in the taxi, waiting for a
>customer to pay with a card slows things way down. Utterly frustrating
>to loose a fare to another cab because you can't get your current people
>out of the car fast enough. And then of course there is the wait to get
>your receipts from the dispatcher at the end of the shift.
Here we still fill up with fuel then pay. Some places do have card facilities at
the pumps though. "Pre-pay", it is a terrible world :(
My pet peeve is people who pay for "small change" shopping with a card. But then
I'm getting old and cantankerous ;)
--
Regards
Stephen
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Stephen wrote:
> Here we still fill up with fuel then pay. Some places do have card facilities at
> the pumps though. "Pre-pay", it is a terrible world :(
Sadly, one pump-and-run can take the profit of an entire week from the
gas station.
> My pet peeve is people who pay for "small change" shopping with a card. But then
> I'm getting old and cantankerous ;)
I get annoyed at people who pay with a personal check for that sort of
stuff, myself. Altho I understand that's usually not their own fault.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Ever notice how people in a zombie movie never already know how to
kill zombies? Ask 100 random people in America how to kill someone
who has reanimated from the dead in a secret viral weapons lab,
and how many do you think already know you need a head-shot?
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Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> I hope neither of you are using those 'customer benefit' cards that
> everyone hands out. Or, at the least, carry 8 of them for the same store
> with different invalid addresses under fake names.
Valid point. I have one for one store. I've always felt like getting
another one with a fake address. Then I felt that would just be plain
dishonest. Then I end up deciding to just shop elsewhere.
--
When a toast with butter falls from your hand, it always falls on the
butter side.
When a cat falls from a height, it always lands on her feet.
If you tie a buttertoast over a cat with the butterside to the top, and
let both fall, what will face the floor, the butter or the feet?
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"Sabrina Kilian" <"ykgp at vtSPAM.edu"> wrote in message
news:489e857d$1@news.povray.org...
> St. wrote:
>> "Mueen Nawaz" <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote in message
> I hope neither of you are using those 'customer benefit' cards that
> everyone hands out. Or, at the least, carry 8 of them for the same store
> with different invalid addresses under fake names.
Noooo thank you. :) Heard enough horror stories about them.
>
> And I wonder why my key chain gets heavy . . .
Why does it get heavy?
~Steve~
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And lo on Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:48:40 +0100, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
did spake, saying:
> I get annoyed at people who pay with a personal check for that sort of
> stuff, myself. Altho I understand that's usually not their own fault.
Becoming less of a problem here. A lot of stores, especially petrol
stations, don't accept cheques anymore.
--
Phil Cook
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I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:28:39 +0100, Phil Cook wrote:
> Becoming less of a problem here. A lot of stores, especially petrol
> stations, don't accept cheques anymore.
Yeah, it seems most restaurants here won't accept cheques either....
Jim
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:58:45 +0100, St. wrote:
> Heard enough horror stories about them.
Such as?
I used to work in IT in the food/drug retail industry (but I don't any
more). So I'm curious how people think that data's being used. I don't
have a complete picture myself, but what I've seen of it in the chain I
used to work in, I don't think it's anywhere as bad as people think.
Understanding customer spending habits allows a store to better stock up
on the things I need/want. In general, it would be impossible for a
large chain to use that data to track individual shopping habits - the
data is much more useful in determining things like aggregate products
purchased by the local population and a better understanding of how
customers use multiple stores in the same area.
I wonder what kind of stories Starbuck's data would give you, for
example....
Jim
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 02:13:53 -0400, Sabrina Kilian wrote:
> The only time I've seen automated utility payment done right, was when
> it automatically billed a credit card. Cash back bonus, ding the utility
> company for the service fee, and have that extra month to pay it.
Where do you think the utility company gets the money to pay the service
fee?
We're all paying that fee for the customers who do it through an increase
in price....
Jim
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And lo on Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:34:38 +0100, Jim Henderson
<nos### [at] nospamcom> did spake, saying:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:58:45 +0100, St. wrote:
>
>> Heard enough horror stories about them.
>
> Such as?
>
> I used to work in IT in the food/drug retail industry (but I don't any
> more). So I'm curious how people think that data's being used. I don't
> have a complete picture myself, but what I've seen of it in the chain I
> used to work in, I don't think it's anywhere as bad as people think.
>
> Understanding customer spending habits allows a store to better stock up
> on the things I need/want. In general, it would be impossible for a
> large chain to use that data to track individual shopping habits - the
> data is much more useful in determining things like aggregate products
> purchased by the local population and a better understanding of how
> customers use multiple stores in the same area.
Yet I get vouchers from the supermarket tailored to correspond to items
I've already purchased from there. I doubt anyone's picking over the data
individually more a case of X purchases within Y days of product type Z
all ranked with the top five being assigned corresponding vouchers.
It's also something to remember that such stores are branching out into
other areas such as insurance etc. and that some cards can be used in many
participating stores. In theory if I used a store card everywhere I could
the company could know what I eat and how often, what type of clothes I
buy, the books I read, the movies I watch, where and how often I buy
petrol. Sure it's all automated until someone in the government decides
they want to know more about a suspicious individual's habits.
> I wonder what kind of stories Starbuck's data would give you, for
> example....
At the very least it could reveal your work hours.
--
Phil Cook
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I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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