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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 15 Jul 2008 12:22:18
Message: <487cceba@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Mmm, I guess it's not only M$ that sometimes rushes things due to
> "launch shedules".
>
> (You see what I did there?)

Hint: pointing out your own puns makes them irritating more than funny


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 15 Jul 2008 12:24:54
Message: <487ccf56$1@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw wrote:

> Hint: pointing out your own puns makes them irritating more than funny

Question: Are *my* puns even funny in the first place?

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 15 Jul 2008 12:26:22
Message: <487ccfae$1@news.povray.org>
>> NASA?
> 
>> Aren't they those guys who tried to launch a rocket with a faulty O-ring?
> 
>   Take two programs of comparable size made in Microsoft and in NASA,
> and compare the total amount of bugs found during testing. The former will
> have in the order of thousands, while the latter will have something
> like 10.
> 
>   And the latter while never exceeding budgets nor deadlines.

A NASA rocket exploding is something like an M$ product having a severe 
security vulnerability.

So far, NASA has had, what, 2 major incidents like this? In its entire 
history?

(...I'm sure you see where I'm going with this...)

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 15 Jul 2008 12:28:05
Message: <487cd015$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Gail Shaw wrote:
> 
>> Hint: pointing out your own puns makes them irritating more than funny
> 
> Question: Are *my* puns even funny in the first place?
> 

It is possible ...


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 15 Jul 2008 12:29:42
Message: <487cd076@news.povray.org>
"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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> Gail Shaw wrote:
>
> > Hint: pointing out your own puns makes them irritating more than funny
>
> Question: Are *my* puns even funny in the first place?
>

Some are, some I would miss. That's how puns are supposed to be


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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 15 Jul 2008 12:30:49
Message: <487cd0b9$3@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:36:10 -0500, Mike Raiford <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> 
>> (PID - Andrew should know what this means, Proportional, 
>> Integral, Derivative ) 
> 
> Thank you I read it as "Piping & Instrumentation Diagram" 

...and I read it as Prolapsed Intervertebral Disc

John


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 15 Jul 2008 12:31:54
Message: <487cd0fa$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> A NASA rocket exploding is something like an M$ product having a severe 
> security vulnerability.

I don't think that's a fair comparison .. Sure, a security vulnerability 
is a headache, but it did just kill the crew, and spread flaming debris 
across half of Texas ...

> So far, NASA has had, what, 2 major incidents like this? In its entire 
> history?
> 
> (...I'm sure you see where I'm going with this...)
> 

Didn't the ESA lose a mars probe because of a program error?


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 15 Jul 2008 12:33:16
Message: <487cd14c$1@news.povray.org>
Doctor John wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:36:10 -0500, Mike Raiford <mra### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>
>>> (PID - Andrew should know what this means, Proportional, 
>>> Integral, Derivative ) 
>> Thank you I read it as "Piping & Instrumentation Diagram" 
> 
> ...and I read it as Prolapsed Intervertebral Disc
> 
> John

At least no one has read it as "Personal Integrity Device" ...


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 15 Jul 2008 12:40:21
Message: <487cd2f5$1@news.povray.org>
>> A NASA rocket exploding is something like an M$ product having a 
>> severe security vulnerability.
> 
> I don't think that's a fair comparison .. Sure, a security vulnerability 
> is a headache, but it did just kill the crew, and spread flaming debris 
> across half of Texas ...

...which is why software bugs are "acceptable", and safety issues 
aren't. ;-)

But I think it *is* a fair comparison: M$ Windoze is not capable of 
killing anybody [usually], so a severe security issue is just about the 
most catastrophic kind of problem it can experience.

> Didn't the ESA lose a mars probe because of a program error?

Possibly.

Space is a pretty harsh environment, so there's a whole array of 
possible malfunctions that could end a mission - broken motors or 
sensors, compromised computer hardware, corrupted RAM portions, or 
conceivably simple programmer error. The last one would seem one of the 
easiest classes of fault to prevent, but sure, one might have slipped 
though somewhere...

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Astonishment
Date: 15 Jul 2008 12:40:59
Message: <487cd31b$1@news.povray.org>
>> (PID - Andrew should know what this means, Proportional, 
>> Integral, Derivative ) 

Andrew did *not* know what it means. I was assuming Process ID...

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