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>> Surely you'd only *attempt* such a thing on an extremely high-end server
>> though? (Recall that Vista is a desktop OS.)
>
> Nope. IT classrooms typically buy the cheapest hardware they can
> possibly purchase - usually desktop machines - and then run a virtual
> server envrionment.
Well... might I suggest that trying to run multiple OSes simultaneously
on hardware that isn't capable of running *one* OS is... a bad idea?
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> 90 seconds?
>
> If you just wanted to remove the first and last line, wouldn't it take
> less than 90 seconds to script it? Even in the most retarded scripting
> language imaginable?
Maybe, but then surely the script is going to take *another* 90 seconds + 2
minutes to load and save the file anyway.
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> You want a drive that reads and burns CD, DVD-SL, DVD-DL, DVD-R, DVD-RW,
You mean like this one?
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145553
Oh you want to burn blu-ray discs too?
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139994
I don't know about you, but my first CD burner was more expensive than that,
and at that point distributing games on CD was common.
Anyway, just wait a year and those drives will be half that price, then it
only needs some "killer" game to be released on blu-ray and people will
charge out to buy them.
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>> You want a drive that reads and burns CD, DVD-SL, DVD-DL, DVD-R,
>
> You mean like this one?
>
> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145553
>
> Oh you want to burn blu-ray discs too?
>
> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139994
HDMI lead? (Surely it cannot possibly cost anything approaching that
much from the suppliers.)
> I don't know about you, but my first CD burner was more expensive than
> that, and at that point distributing games on CD was common.
Yeah, but CD-ROM drives were reasonably cheap by the time it become common.
> Anyway, just wait a year and those drives will be half that price.
Yeah. That sounds more like it.
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Invisible wrote:
>>> Maybe I've missed something, but what image editing software gives
>>> you more than 1 level of undo?
>>
>> The GIMP. It's in your price range, too :)
>
> Uhuh. And who (apart from me) uses that?
>
I did, until I could afford Photoshop. The Gimp is a very capable image
manipulation package, although it is missing a few key features. Notably
the inability to edit an image in Lab mode, and 16 bit per channel
editing (Both of which are very nice for restoring old images)
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> > The GIMP. It's in your price range, too :)
> Uhuh. And who (apart from me) uses that?
Almost everybody who can't afford (or don't want to) Photoshop and are
too honest to pirate it.
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Invisible wrote:
>>> Maybe I've missed something, but what image editing software gives
>>> you more than 1 level of undo?
>>
>> The GIMP. It's in your price range, too :)
>
> Uhuh. And who (apart from me) uses that?
<raises hand>
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:14:02 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>>> Surely you'd only *attempt* such a thing on an extremely high-end
>>> server though? (Recall that Vista is a desktop OS.)
>>
>> Nope. IT classrooms typically buy the cheapest hardware they can
>> possibly purchase - usually desktop machines - and then run a virtual
>> server envrionment.
>
> Well... might I suggest that trying to run multiple OSes simultaneously
> on hardware that isn't capable of running *one* OS is... a bad idea?
That's the reason for the additional memory = makes the hardware capable
of running one or more OSes. ;-)
For the training that we develop here, we're specing at least 2 GB of RAM
and suggesting more, I believe. We're also leaning towards a strong
recommendation for VT-enabled processors because we use VMware and XEN
virtualization solutions for the classroom.
Thing is, you can only fit so many machines in a classroom, and if you
get to > 1 PC per student, the training centers don't hold the class
(because they can't enroll enough students to make any money). Single-
box solutions are *highly* desirable, but when you have to have a server
or two and a client to effectively teach networking concepts,
virtualization is the best route to go.
The centers aren't going to spend $20K on individual machines for a
classroom. That's not cost effective.
Jim
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:07:27 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>>> Maybe I've missed something, but what image editing software gives you
>>> more than 1 level of undo?
>>
>> The GIMP. It's in your price range, too
>
> Uhuh. And who (apart from me) uses that?
Um, lots of people. I mean, it's only at version 2.4 and only been
around since 1996. And there's user groups *just* for GIMP users. I
don't think there's user groups of 1 user.
Jim
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:28:06 -0500, Mike Raiford wrote:
> inability to edit an image in Lab mode
I think this has been addressed in recent builds. I know you can break
an image down into LAB and recombine it, and after breaking it down the
file is still editable.
Jim
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