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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Random thought for the weekend
Date: 27 Jun 2008 14:24:00
Message: <48653040$1@news.povray.org>
Mike the Elder wrote:

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....whaaaaat the hell have I just stumbled into?? 0_0

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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Random thought for the weekend
Date: 27 Jun 2008 15:44:26
Message: <4865431a$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> 
> ....whaaaaat the hell have I just stumbled into?? 0_0
> 

povray.religion

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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Random thought for the weekend
Date: 28 Jun 2008 01:41:16
Message: <4865cefc$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> It's funny, when you think about it at the very basic level of things, 
> we all started as a chemical reaction ...

This presumes facts not in evidence.

Regards,
John


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: Random thought for the weekend
Date: 28 Jun 2008 02:26:52
Message: <4865d9ac$1@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>
>> ....whaaaaat the hell have I just stumbled into?? 0_0
>>
> 
> povray.religion

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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: Random thought for the weekend
Date: 28 Jun 2008 02:30:20
Message: <4865da7c@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle wrote:
> Mike Raiford wrote:
>> It's funny, when you think about it at the very basic level of things, 
>> we all started as a chemical reaction ...
> 
> This presumes facts not in evidence.

Subject being the ultimate dawning of man, perhaps. Speaking on a 
personal level, the evidence is in every hospital, bedroom, twinkling eye...


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Random thought for the weekend
Date: 28 Jun 2008 02:49:12
Message: <4865dee8@news.povray.org>
> It's funny, when you think about it at the very basic level of things, 
> we all started as a chemical reaction ...

We all still are just chemical reactions!


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Random thought for the weekend
Date: 28 Jun 2008 05:09:52
Message: <4865ffe0$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> We all still are just chemical reactions!

Thank you for pointing that out. It's easy to overlook. ;-)

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Random thought for the weekend
Date: 28 Jun 2008 05:45:07
Message: <48660823@news.povray.org>
scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> We all still are just chemical reactions!

  That's like saying that literature is just paper and ink.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Random thought for the weekend
Date: 28 Jun 2008 15:14:26
Message: <48668d92$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
>> We all still are just chemical reactions!
> 
>   That's like saying that literature is just paper and ink.

Pretty much.

That's the thing most people don't get, tho.  The information content is 
in the *arrangement*, not the *components*. People say things like 
"there is no soul, because a dead person and a live person have all the 
same chemicals."  Even tho there's nothing *physical* there more than 
the chemicals, their arrangement is what's important.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
  Helpful housekeeping hints:
   Check your feather pillows for holes
    before putting them in the washing machine.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Random thought for the weekend
Date: 28 Jun 2008 15:21:50
Message: <48668f4e@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> >> We all still are just chemical reactions!
> > 
> >   That's like saying that literature is just paper and ink.

> Pretty much.

> That's the thing most people don't get, tho.  The information content is 
> in the *arrangement*, not the *components*. People say things like 
> "there is no soul, because a dead person and a live person have all the 
> same chemicals."  Even tho there's nothing *physical* there more than 
> the chemicals, their arrangement is what's important.

  Information (most prominently written information) is still something
which puzzles me at a conceptual, philosophical or whatever level I can't
really determine.

  Paper and ink is just that, paper and ink. There's nothing else there
than paper and ink. Yet there can be: If there is, for example, some
written text, there is *something* else than just paper and ink there.
It's what is commonly called "information". I simply can't get a mental
grasp of what exactly that is, at the lowest conceptual level possible.
It's something that is and is not there, at the same time. It transfers
something from person to person, something which isn't physical. If it
isn't physical, how can it "exist" at all?

  When I think about written information like that, it starts sounding
really, really whacky.

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                                                          - Warp


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