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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Valid solution or evil hack?
Date: 16 May 2008 14:34:21
Message: <482dd3ad@news.povray.org>
>> But it's not like a bunch of guys in suits sat down and said, "Now we 
>> need to design a version that's going to fail really soon."
> 
> You sure?  How many devices have you had that failed within days of the 
> warranty expiring? ;-)

You know how traffic lights always turn red just as you get to them? 
Well, one day I decided to ignore them when that happens. But each time 
I arrive at a set of traffic lights just as they turn green, I'm all 
like, "woo! I got the green!"

Now almost every single set of traffic lights I come to turn green 
immediately. Seriously, you should try it!

The Jedi were right - your focus determins your reality. :-D

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Valid solution or evil hack?
Date: 16 May 2008 18:18:45
Message: <482e0845$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Now almost every single set of traffic lights I come to turn green 
> immediately. Seriously, you should try it!

Heh. I think I shall. :-)

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Valid solution or evil hack?
Date: 16 May 2008 21:50:17
Message: <482e39d9@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>>> I'm just wondering whether they actually did anything different at 
>>> all for the extra money, that's all.
>>
>> Yeah, they guaranteed that it won't fail within certain tolerances. 
>> Those tolerances are *much* stricter than for the cheap version.
> 
> Well, certainly for resistors, they have a machine that just churns out 
> resistors. They vary all over the place. The ones that are more than 10% 
> wrong get thrown away [or perhaps recycled, IDK]. The ones that are 
> within 10% of the correct value get sold cheap. And the ones that are 
> within 5% of the correct value get sold expensive. But it all comes out 
> of the same machine, and costs the same to produce. [Although I guess 
> the 5% ones are rarer, assuming a normal distribution...]

Of course they're rarer.  If they weren't, some other company would 
charge a lower price for them.

>> When you pay extra for shipping, you're paying for a guarantee that it 
>> will arrive within a certain timeframe.  If you're ordering a gift for 
>> someone's birthday, for instance, and their birthday is 3 days from 
>> now, do you want to gamble that the gift won't arrive on time?  Or do 
>> you want to know *for a fact* that it will arrive within 3 days?
> 
> If only it was a *fact*. It's not like you can demand your money back 
> when the item still turns up 3 weeks late...

Actually, you can.  At least for the shipping.

...Chambers


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Valid solution or evil hack?
Date: 16 May 2008 21:51:28
Message: <482e3a20$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
>> But it's not like a bunch of guys in suits sat down and said, "Now we 
>> need to design a version that's going to fail really soon."
> 
> You sure?  How many devices have you had that failed within days of the 
> warranty expiring? ;-)
> 

None, actually.  But that's probably a fluke :)

I bet what really happens is more along the lines of, "OK, we're at the 
point where it will outlast the warranty, we can stop spending money 
improving it now."

...Chambers


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Valid solution or evil hack?
Date: 17 May 2008 04:55:02
Message: <sr6t241ubatnbvalq0k3mb8l3drd451j4t@4ax.com>
On Fri, 16 May 2008 15:51:04 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>

> For something that passively measures a temparature and has 
>almost no possible way of malfunctioning... well, I know what I'd do. ;-)

Sorry but you are wrong, there. Electronic components can fail under
normal usage also electronic circuits can  drift and need recalibrated
from time to time. A temperature measuring device that has a range of

That is very accurate. 
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Valid solution or evil hack?
Date: 19 May 2008 03:25:23
Message: <48312b63$1@news.povray.org>
> almost no possible way of malfunctioning...

Famous last words...

Seriously, how much would *you* be willing to bet that a temperature 
measurement system from Maplin doesn't fail during 5 years use?  $1, $100, 
$100000 ?  This is exactly what bet companies have to make, and if the bet 
is millions of dollars, you don't get a $50 meter from Maplin.


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