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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 16:26:11
Message: <47b4b1f3$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:38:21 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

> nemesis wrote:
>> Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> I always had to use vim
>>> to edit the X11 config, wait the the filesystem to sync, and then
>>> reboot the PC to exit vim... :-S
>> 
>> God. How about ":q", ":wq" or even the ever popular "ZZ"?
> 
> Yeah, a few people suggested that. Tended to end up just typing ":q" in
> the file though...
> 
>> How about learning a tool before using it?
> 
> Well, let's see. I've never seen Unix in my life, and I'm trying to get
> it to work. I have no idea what I'm doing, nobody to help me, and no
> manual. So at this point, I'm stumbling along as best as I can. [Given
> that I've spent 4 entire *days* on it by now.] I was curios, but even my
> curiosity has limits. ;-)
> 
> Fortunately, things have improved since those days. [Although I have
> still yet to figure out vim or emacs.]

emacs is a waste IMHO (prepare for the flamewar), vim (or vi) is more 
than sufficient.

But in vi, you can type :h to get help, or "man vi".

You did manage to work out :q (which presumably would prompt you that you 
hadn't saved the changed file) - rebooting seems a bit extreme as a 
workaround.

Then of course, there were tons of books on SVRX (and earlier). ;-)

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 16:26:53
Message: <47b4b21d@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:11:58 -0500, nemesis wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> I also have odd problems with it coming up with "nan" values for some
>> of the points.
> 
> yes, alphaQuad raised that point.  I wonder how it can output perfectly
> readable numbers for the points in the SVG and get some of those wrong
> in the povray export...

I wonder that as well.  Been meaning to file a bug about it, but I like 
to include as much info as I can so it can actually be fixed, and haven't 
had time to do the research necessary for a useful bug report.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 16:28:22
Message: <47b4b276$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:10:37 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

> nemesis wrote:
>> you know, this thread should be just called "The Damn Big WTF thread".
>> Look at the size of the damn thing!  People have talked from M$ vs
>> Linux, hardware compatibility, Inkscape, Mac mouses, wikipedia and
>> whatever.
>> 
>> WTF?!!
>> 
>> how about moving it to an offtopic newsgroups of its own? ;)
> 
> ph33r my thread!
> 
> Damn, every time anybody replies, I get a mild case of RSI just
> scrolling the damn scroll wheel down to the bottom to find out where the
> new post is! o_O

Try "n" to go to the next unread message (IIRC, that's the shortcut in 
Thunderbird).

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 16:28:53
Message: <47b4b295$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:18:24 -0200, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> nemesis escribió:
>> you know, this thread should be just called "The Damn Big WTF thread".
>> Look at the size of the damn thing!  People have talked from M$ vs
>> Linux, hardware compatibility, Inkscape, Mac mouses, wikipedia and
>> whatever.
>> 
>> WTF?!!
>> 
>> how about moving it to an offtopic newsgroups of its own? ;)
> 
> How about doing the right thing and changing the post Subject: field
> when the subject actually changes? :)

That would be too confusing - it is off-topic, after all, so why should 
the topic of the post match the subject line? ;-)

Jim


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 16:29:17
Message: <47b4b2ad$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson escribió:
> emacs is a waste IMHO (prepare for the flamewar), vim (or vi) is more 
> than sufficient.
> 
> But in vi, you can type :h to get help, or "man vi".
> 
> You did manage to work out :q (which presumably would prompt you that you 
> hadn't saved the changed file) - rebooting seems a bit extreme as a 
> workaround.
> 
> Then of course, there were tons of books on SVRX (and earlier). ;-)
> 

I use gvim, a bash shell, and gcc for all my development needs. And I'm 
on *Windows*...


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 16:30:24
Message: <47b4b2f0$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> I use gvim, a bash shell, and gcc for all my development needs.

M'ok, fair enough...

> And I'm on *Windows*...

WAH! O__O

*dies*

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 16:31:01
Message: <47b4b315$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:

> Try "n" to go to the next unread message (IIRC, that's the shortcut in 
> Thunderbird).

N is for Neato... :-D

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 16:31:10
Message: <47b4b31e$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:29:16 -0200, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> Jim Henderson escribió:
>> emacs is a waste IMHO (prepare for the flamewar), vim (or vi) is more
>> than sufficient.
>> 
>> But in vi, you can type :h to get help, or "man vi".
>> 
>> You did manage to work out :q (which presumably would prompt you that
>> you hadn't saved the changed file) - rebooting seems a bit extreme as a
>> workaround.
>> 
>> Then of course, there were tons of books on SVRX (and earlier). ;-)
>> 
>> 
> I use gvim, a bash shell, and gcc for all my development needs. And I'm
> on *Windows*...

:-)

Jim


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 16:36:15
Message: <47b4b44f$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson escribió:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:18:24 -0200, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> How about doing the right thing and changing the post Subject: field
>> when the subject actually changes? :)
> 
> That would be too confusing - it is off-topic, after all, so why should 
> the topic of the post match the subject line? ;-)

Not confusing - it's done all the time on mailing lists.

http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/thread-subject-change.png


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 16:37:53
Message: <47b4b4b1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 escribió:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> I use gvim, a bash shell, and gcc for all my development needs.
 >
> M'ok, fair enough...
> 
>> And I'm on *Windows*...
> 
> WAH! O__O

Well, I use Eclipse for Java. But that's the only exception. I use 
vim+bash+gcc (MinGW) for C(++). And vim too for PHP, JS, whatever.


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