Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> 
> Something like 8 years ago, I was manually editing the X11 configuration
> file to tell it what DAC chip my graphics card has in it... o_O
> 

9 years ago I said "Xconfigurator" and got a curses-based application to
configure my X easily and correctly. Today I mostly use xorgconfig,
which makes you need to know more :p.

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>> Something like 8 years ago, I was manually editing the X11 configuration
>> file to tell it what DAC chip my graphics card has in it... o_O
>>
> 
> 9 years ago I said "Xconfigurator" and got a curses-based application to
> configure my X easily and correctly. Today I mostly use xorgconfig,
> which makes you need to know more :p.

IIRC, Xconfigurator never worked properly, and I always had to use vim 
to edit the X11 config, wait the the filesystem to sync, and then reboot 
the PC to exit vim... :-S

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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:00:58 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

>>> Something like 8 years ago, I was manually editing the X11
>>> configuration file to tell it what DAC chip my graphics card has in
>>> it... o_O
>>>
>>>
>> 9 years ago I said "Xconfigurator" and got a curses-based application
>> to configure my X easily and correctly. Today I mostly use xorgconfig,
>> which makes you need to know more :p.
> 
> IIRC, Xconfigurator never worked properly, and I always had to use vim
> to edit the X11 config, wait the the filesystem to sync, and then reboot
> the PC to exit vim... :-S

Odd, I never had those problems with Xconfigurator myself...

Jim

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>> IIRC, Xconfigurator never worked properly, and I always had to use vim
>> to edit the X11 config, wait the the filesystem to sync, and then reboot
>> the PC to exit vim... :-S
> 
> Odd, I never had those problems with Xconfigurator myself...

I'm just trying to remember exactly what video card I was trying to 
configure... Something obscure. It's not S3 or ATI or nVidia or 
anything. Hmm, what was it called? Might have been a Matrox of some 
kind, I don't recall now.

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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:05:24 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

>>> IIRC, Xconfigurator never worked properly, and I always had to use vim
>>> to edit the X11 config, wait the the filesystem to sync, and then
>>> reboot the PC to exit vim... :-S
>> 
>> Odd, I never had those problems with Xconfigurator myself...
> 
> I'm just trying to remember exactly what video card I was trying to
> configure... Something obscure. It's not S3 or ATI or nVidia or
> anything. Hmm, what was it called? Might have been a Matrox of some
> kind, I don't recall now.

The Matrox cards ISTR were fairly fussy about configuration. I think I 
owned one once and swore I'd never go back.

Jim

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On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:06:56 -0500, Jim Henderson wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:05:24 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> 
>>>> IIRC, Xconfigurator never worked properly, and I always had to use
>>>> vim to edit the X11 config, wait the the filesystem to sync, and then
>>>> reboot the PC to exit vim... :-S
>>> 
>>> Odd, I never had those problems with Xconfigurator myself...
>> 
>> I'm just trying to remember exactly what video card I was trying to
>> configure... Something obscure. It's not S3 or ATI or nVidia or
>> anything. Hmm, what was it called? Might have been a Matrox of some
>> kind, I don't recall now.
> 
> The Matrox cards ISTR were fairly fussy about configuration. I think I
> owned one once and swore I'd never go back.

go back to buy another one, that is.

Jim

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> I also have odd problems with it coming up with "nan" values for some of
> the points.

yes, alphaQuad raised that point.  I wonder how it can output perfectly readable
numbers for the points in the SVG and get some of those wrong in the povray
export...

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nemesis wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> I also have odd problems with it coming up with "nan" values for some of
>> the points.
> 
> yes, alphaQuad raised that point.  I wonder how it can output perfectly readable
> numbers for the points in the SVG and get some of those wrong in the povray
> export...

Probably trying to scale them in same way and ending up with a zero 
denominator somewhere or something daft like that...

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Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I always had to use vim
> to edit the X11 config, wait the the filesystem to sync, and then reboot
> the PC to exit vim... :-S

God. How about ":q", ":wq" or even the ever popular "ZZ"?

How about learning a tool before using it?

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nemesis wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> I always had to use vim
>> to edit the X11 config, wait the the filesystem to sync, and then reboot
>> the PC to exit vim... :-S
> 
> God. How about ":q", ":wq" or even the ever popular "ZZ"?

Yeah, a few people suggested that. Tended to end up just typing ":q" in 
the file though...

> How about learning a tool before using it?

Well, let's see. I've never seen Unix in my life, and I'm trying to get 
it to work. I have no idea what I'm doing, nobody to help me, and no 
manual. So at this point, I'm stumbling along as best as I can. [Given 
that I've spent 4 entire *days* on it by now.] I was curios, but even my 
curiosity has limits. ;-)

Fortunately, things have improved since those days. [Although I have 
still yet to figure out vim or emacs.]

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