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From: scott
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 06:26:32
Message: <47b42568$1@news.povray.org>
> Well, unless you invite the devs to come camp at your place until the next 
> time it crashes, and don't let them take any data away with them.

Well yes, but given that half of the dev team is in a different country, and 
the other half is in a different continent...

And still, I don't think my superiors would want me to show them what we're 
doing, especially since it's one of two industry standard packages - so I 
guess they are working with our competitors too...


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 09:17:22
Message: <47b44d72$1@news.povray.org>

> Ah-hah! Another thing I really hate... Makes it easy to move the pointer 
> half way across the screen, but almost impossible to aim at a 1-pixel dot.
> 

You got that backwards... The non-linear movement is what LETS you aim 
at a 1-pixel dot and ALSO move the pointer from one corner of the screen 
to the other.

Move twice as fast, cursor moves three times as fast. If you move 
slowly, you can surely get 1px precision.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 09:18:11
Message: <47b44da3$1@news.povray.org>

> If you're used to linear pointer speeds

...you can configure the Mac to have linear speed.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 09:23:24
Message: <47b44edc@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

>> Ah-hah! Another thing I really hate... Makes it easy to move the 
>> pointer half way across the screen, but almost impossible to aim at a 
>> 1-pixel dot.
>>
> 
> You got that backwards... The non-linear movement is what LETS you aim 
> at a 1-pixel dot and ALSO move the pointer from one corner of the screen 
> to the other.

Not IME. Generally it means that no matter how you move your hand, the 
pointer shoots off so fast it smashes into the corner of the screen. 
Unless you move your finger so slowly it sticks to the pad and pulls all 
the skin out from under your nails...

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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 09:25:04
Message: <47b44f40@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

>> If you're used to linear pointer speeds
> 
> ...you can configure the Mac to have linear speed.

Yes. The default is the nonlinear though, and by the time I got around 
to hunting out the settings I'd got used to it, and preferred it.


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 09:46:28
Message: <47b45444@news.povray.org>
"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
news:47b210da$1@news.povray.org...
> Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> > Darren New wrote:
> >
> >>> Only hyper-nerds are going to be able to get anything remotely useful
> >>> out of a dump file. To everybody else, it's just wasted disk space.
> >>
> >> Generally, the source code is sufficient.
> >
> > Cool. Let me just contact the makers of every device driver I'm running
> > and we can see where th... no, wait, that won't work. ;-)
>
> Or send them the core file.

I had IBM once insist that I attach a debugger to the application that was
crashing, so they could get detailed stack anaylsis.

Let's see, attach a debugger to my production SQL Server, just so I can
track a problem with one ODBC driver. I think not.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 12:35:48
Message: <47b47bf4$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 07:31:18 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:

>>> ...which is what I meant. If HP gets to pick what hardware goes in,
>>> they can pick exactly the hardware that works with whichever OS
>>> they're preloading.
>> 
>> Sure.  Now, how surprised are you going to be when I tell you that my
>> HP didn't come with openSUSE installed, but with Vista installed, and I
>> installed openSUSE with no problems?
> 
> That's a little different, yeah.
> 
>> (Only thing not working is
>> wireless, and I don't care about that - but I understand there are
>> drivers for Linux for it, just can't be bothered).
> 
> One of the prime areas that doesn't work, so I'm told. (I don't use such
> technology myself, so...)

Um, my wife's wireless card works fine, the one in my t42p works fine, 
and the one in my kids' machine (running from a liveCD) works fine.  In 
fact, the t42p uses an atheros chipset, and the driver is a reverse-
engineered driver, and it works pretty well (just don't ask about the 
access point at the office - that thing is a piece of crap.  The one here 
at home works fine).

>> This thing's got an
>> Nvidia chipset ethernet card in it, not exactly a common type of
>> ethernet card, at least not in my experience.
> 
> My motherboard has the nVidia nForce IV chipset. For quite a while I had
> trouble with various distros not recognising either the Ethernet ports
> or the SATA ports. (Guess where my HD is...) Makes installing the OS
> interesting when it can't find your HD. (Also, the early nForce driver
> would enumerate the HDs in reverse order, which is damn confusing...)

Oh, yes, and this HP uses a SATA drive as well.

>>> :-|   <== not shocked face.
>> 
>> Given that you're on v7, I'm not surprised. :-)
> 
> Well, so many applications won't uninstall cleanly. :-S

One of the *major* problems I have with Windows.

>>> Like I said, Linux has now become pretty easy to use once it's set up
>>> right. I find it's still tricky to set it up correctly sometimes, but
>>> once it works it's really not much different to Windoze. [Except no
>>> random OS crashes.]
>> 
>> It can be, particularly with laptops.  As I said, 5 years ago, it was
>> fairly painful on laptops (in particular), but today the support is
>> very good.
> 
> Something like 8 years ago, I was manually editing the X11 configuration
> file to tell it what DAC chip my graphics card has in it... o_O

That was 8 years ago.  This is now - with OpenSUSE, you use sax2 to do 
the configuration.  ATI cards can be a little flakey to get working, but 
AMD has opened the specs so real OSS drivers are on the way.  The Nvidia 
graphics drivers are quite good, even though they're binary-only (that's 
also what's in the HP for video).

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 12:36:57
Message: <47b47c39@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:27:59 +0200, Nekar Xenos wrote:

> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
> news:47b37404@news.povray.org...
>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 21:56:48 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>>> I tried to go down that road. I found too many things I couldn't do
>>> without Windoze. Sadly...
>>
>> Like what?  I do have a couple apps that I need Windows for, and I have
>> a VMware machine for those circumstances.  Like the odd MS Excel XML
>> document that won't open in OpenOffice (had one a couple days ago like
>> that).  Usually they open fine, but every once in a while the converter
>> just seizes up.
>>
>>
> I'm considering Ubuntu but I need to know if there is something free
> available like CorelDraw or Illustrator. I need to be able to export
> vectors to pdf and fonts and I like all the advanced capabillities of
> Corel and Illustrator.

I use Inkscape for that kind of work - the latest version is pretty 
good.  It ain't Illustrator (which I have running in a VM).

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 12:38:16
Message: <47b47c88@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:22:44 -0500, nemesis wrote:

> povray (paths to prism)

I do wish it did a better job with fonts.  I'm always trying to remember 
how I got it to work "the last time".  It's something about having to 
convert the object to curves, IIRC.

I also have odd problems with it coming up with "nan" values for some of 
the points.

But generally, I like that feature a lot.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 14 Feb 2008 12:39:10
Message: <47b47cbe$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:41:20 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> Bill Pragnell wrote:
> 
>> And you know the best thing? On their laptops, tapping the touchpad
>> with two fingers instead of just one performs a right-click (I don't
>> think this is default behaviour, but it's in the desktop settings - and
>> it's genius).
> 
> Gah. I *hate* that! I wish I knew how to disable that on my Linux
> laptop... You go to make a big mouse movement, which involves lifting
> your fingers off the glide pad and putting them down again several
> times, and each time you do you end up randomly clicking something on
> the screen. GRRR!

Change the mouse sensitivity.

Jim


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