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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 13 Feb 2008 04:51:57
Message: <47b2bdbd$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:

>> It's still not [yet] as easy to use.
> 
> Wrong.

"Easy to use" is highly subjective.

>> Most hardware companies don't supply drivers for it, and refuse to hand
>> over the information required for anybody else to write those drivers.
> 
> Wrong; this used to be the case, but not any more.

It's improving, certainly. I don't think it's there yet though.

>> If you're into gaming, forget it. Almost no big developers target that
>> platform.
> 
> Hmmm, Unreal Tournament III runs on it natively, and Cedega does a very 
> nice job for non-Linux games.  Again, maybe 5 years ago this was the 
> case, but these days there are plenty of game developers writing to 
> Linux.  It's not on par with Windows, true.  But it's improved greatly.

Sure. It's changing. (Doesn't the latest Quake engine also run there?) 
My point is that it isn't there yet.

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 13 Feb 2008 04:56:53
Message: <47b2bee5@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
>> Vista's getting a lot of angry comments now and it hasn't got it's
>> footprint out (yet). If MS broke backward compatibility totally now, how
>> would you think Vista would be selling?
> 
>   I don't believe too many people would complain if Vista broke
> compatibility with Windows 3.1 and DOS (which would be approximately
> the same thing MacOS X has done).
> 
>   (OTOH, I don't really know if Vista actually has done that. I assume
> it hasn't.)

I hear that AMD64 [finally] breaks compatibility with certain really 
ancient x86 stuff. But I don't have any technical data on that...

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 13 Feb 2008 05:09:49
Message: <47b2c1ed@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Uh, dude, isn't the whole *point* of a Mac to get *away* from M$ 
> products? :-P

  The problem is that Microsoft is the Borg, and sometimes you just
can't avoid it. At least with MacOS X you can mostly stay away from
their OS, even if you are sometimes forced to use their office suite.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 13 Feb 2008 05:10:51
Message: <47b2c22b@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> It's funny - I go into the Apple stores around here and ask to see their 
> 64-bit machines, and the salesmen look at me like I have three heads or 
> something. You'd think someone selling something even as user-friendly 
> as Macs would know what that expression means.

  Well, the whole point of Macs is that you don't have to know how
it works. No wonder salesmen don't either. ;)

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 13 Feb 2008 05:17:15
Message: <47b2c3ab@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Uh, dude, isn't the whole *point* of a Mac to get *away* from M$ 
>> products? :-P
> 
>   The problem is that Microsoft is the Borg, and sometimes you just
> can't avoid it.

That's a familiar problem...

> At least with MacOS X you can mostly stay away from
> their OS, even if you are sometimes forced to use their office suite.

Heh. According to the guy I spoke to in the Apple shop [yes, while 
wondering around Leicester highstreet, I actually *found* an Apple 
shop!], Apple just haven't developed their own office suite yet. (Which 
is a pitty, because from what I've heard, if Apple did an office suite 
it would really 0wn...)

Presumably I can run OpenOffice instead though?

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From: scott
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 13 Feb 2008 05:40:58
Message: <47b2c93a$1@news.povray.org>


Parallel world again!

From ebuyer, prices in GBP including VAT:

Home Basic 54
Home Premium 60
Business 82
Ultimate 106

That's for the 32 bit versions, the 64 bit versions are almost exactly the 
same price.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 13 Feb 2008 05:51:55
Message: <47b2cbcb$1@news.povray.org>
> Well I don't live in America, do I? :-P

Didn't they take over Asda in the UK?


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 13 Feb 2008 06:05:28
Message: <47b2cef8$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> 
> Parallel world again!
> 
>  From ebuyer, prices in GBP including VAT:
> 
> Home Basic 54
> Home Premium 60
> Business 82
> Ultimate 106

Damn, that's come down a bit...

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 13 Feb 2008 06:05:52
Message: <47b2cf10$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> Well I don't live in America, do I? :-P
> 
> Didn't they take over Asda in the UK?

Er... hmm, that does sound vaguely familiar...

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From: scott
Subject: Re: The Daily WTF [again]
Date: 13 Feb 2008 06:19:55
Message: <47b2d25b$1@news.povray.org>
>> Didn't they take over Asda in the UK?
>
> Er... hmm, that does sound vaguely familiar...

Yeh I hadn't heard of them until they did that - and then when I moved to 
Germany there was a Wal-Mart here, but then apparently they pulled out of 
Germany and it's a Real now.


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