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From: Fredrik Eriksson
Subject: Re: Strange PC behaviour
Date: 10 Feb 2008 15:39:44
Message: <op.t6bs0hqn7bxctx@e6600>
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:46:14 +0100, Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Eero Ahonen wrote:
>
>> Bingo! If you have any friends who has electronic as a hobby, now is a
>> good time to ask for some help ;). Capacitors are usually pretty cheap
>> (whole set should cost less than half of a motherboard) and they are
>> actually one of the easiest parts to change, so 'bout anyone with even
>> slight experience of electronics should be able to do the job.
>
> Uh... on a normal circuit board, sure. But aren't motherboard usually  
> multi-layered?


Indeed. You need more than just slight experience to avoid ripping the  
tracks to hell. Far less hassle to just get a new board, and not all that  



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FE


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Strange PC behaviour
Date: 10 Feb 2008 16:00:23
Message: <47af65e7$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> 
> Uh... on a normal circuit board, sure. But aren't motherboard usually
> multi-layered?
> 

Yes, but it's still not as hard as one might think - it just needs a
stable hand and and careful working.

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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Strange PC behaviour
Date: 11 Feb 2008 03:37:54
Message: <1a20r3d9341d7lcv8h39qrj61pir9qshdh@4ax.com>
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:36:41 +0200, Eero Ahonen
<aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:

>Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>> 
>> Uh... on a normal circuit board, sure. But aren't motherboard usually
>> multi-layered?
>> 
>
>Yes, but it's still not as hard as one might think - it just needs a
>stable hand and and careful working.

And a good solder sucker :)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Tom Austin
Subject: Re: Strange PC behaviour
Date: 11 Feb 2008 09:20:46
Message: <47b059be$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> Eero Ahonen wrote:
> 
>> Bingo! If you have any friends who has electronic as a hobby, now is a
>> good time to ask for some help ;). Capacitors are usually pretty cheap
>> (whole set should cost less than half of a motherboard) and they are
>> actually one of the easiest parts to change, so 'bout anyone with even
>> slight experience of electronics should be able to do the job.
> 
> Uh... on a normal circuit board, sure. But aren't motherboard usually 
> multi-layered?
> 

If they are thru-hole they are no different than the 'normal' circuit 
board you mention.


Tom


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Strange PC behaviour
Date: 11 Feb 2008 13:25:49
Message: <47b0932d$1@news.povray.org>
Tom Austin wrote:

>> Uh... on a normal circuit board, sure. But aren't motherboard usually 
>> multi-layered?
>>
> 
> If they are thru-hole they are no different than the 'normal' circuit 
> board you mention.

Mmm, yeah, thinking about it, either the legs go all the way through and 
solder on the reverse side, or they solder onto the top surface. Either 
way, should be doable in principle...

-- 
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Strange PC behaviour
Date: 11 Feb 2008 15:16:35
Message: <h8b1r3l78f6srdvekelh845jumlnjkdto0@4ax.com>
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:25:49 +0000, Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Mmm, yeah, thinking about it, either the legs go all the way through and 
>solder on the reverse side, or they solder onto the top surface. Either 
>way, should be doable in principle...

And practice

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Strange PC behaviour
Date: 11 Feb 2008 18:46:07
Message: <47b0de3f@news.povray.org>
pan wrote:
> "Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
> news:47ad5bd1@news.povray.org...
>> I have a Athlon XP 2400 Socket A using the onboard 128Mb SiS 
>> graphics card and a 250W power supply.
>>
> Power supply. Get a new one (I reccomend Sparkle brand) of at
> least 300W.
> This is an easy install you can do yourself.
> 
> 
550W Power Supplies are common these days, don't they? unless is not the 
case in your city.


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Strange PC behaviour
Date: 11 Feb 2008 19:07:44
Message: <47b0e350@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> Tom Austin wrote:
> 
>>> Uh... on a normal circuit board, sure. But aren't motherboard usually 
>>> multi-layered?
>>>
>>
>> If they are thru-hole they are no different than the 'normal' circuit 
>> board you mention.
> 
> Mmm, yeah, thinking about it, either the legs go all the way through and 
> solder on the reverse side, or they solder onto the top surface.

The first one.

> Either 
> way, should be doable in principle...
is easy, trust me, if the capacitors are normal sized, not the 
millimetric ones.


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Strange PC behaviour
Date: 12 Feb 2008 01:51:40
Message: <47b141fc@news.povray.org>
"Saul Luizaga" <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote in message 
news:47b0e350@news.povray.org...
> Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>> Tom Austin wrote:
>>
>>>> Uh... on a normal circuit board, sure. But aren't motherboard usually 
>>>> multi-layered?
>>>>
>>>
>>> If they are thru-hole they are no different than the 'normal' circuit 
>>> board you mention.
>>
>> Mmm, yeah, thinking about it, either the legs go all the way through and 
>> solder on the reverse side, or they solder onto the top surface.
>
> The first one.
>
>> Either way, should be doable in principle...
> is easy, trust me, if the capacitors are normal sized, not the millimetric 
> ones.

They are normal sized. maybe I should get a soldering iron...


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-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Strange PC behaviour
Date: 12 Feb 2008 01:58:10
Message: <47b14382@news.povray.org>
"Saul Luizaga" <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote in message 
news:47b0de3f@news.povray.org...
> pan wrote:
>> "Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
>> news:47ad5bd1@news.povray.org...
>>> I have a Athlon XP 2400 Socket A using the onboard 128Mb SiS graphics 
>>> card and a 250W power supply.
>>>
>> Power supply. Get a new one (I reccomend Sparkle brand) of at
>> least 300W.
>> This is an easy install you can do yourself.
>>
>>
> 550W Power Supplies are common these days, don't they? unless is not the 
> case in your city.

The powersocket on my motherboard only has 20 pins. The new ones have 24 
pins so I'll have to see if I can get a 20pin powersupply.

From everything I've gathered here it seems it was the power supply that 
damaged my motherboard. So I'm going to try and get a new power supply with 
lots of Watts and see if I can replace those capacitors.

Thanx to everyone who threw in their bit.


-- 
-Nekar Xenos-


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