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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: CD collection
Date: 8 Feb 2008 14:25:00
Message: <web.47acac35d8699a04c2a1486d0@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I can play a large section of Bach's Toccata and Fuge in D minor from
> memory, if that makes it any better?

I was expecting you to like Bach.  He's the most mathematician-like of the
classic composers.  But as usual, I'm impressed by your amazing ignorance about
well-known facts.

"I wouldn't recognise any of the others", the other being Beethoven and Mozart.
Come on!  Even the chinese behind the Great Wall know Beethoven and Mozart!!


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: CD collection
Date: 8 Feb 2008 14:25:14
Message: <47acac9a$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

>> I'm not seeing a way this can be made to work properly...
> 
> But it has been done, and it works, so how about doing some research?
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairPlay#How_it_works

Right. So the decryption key is stored seperately from the actual file. 
Thus, all you have to do is figure out how to copy the decryption key as 
well and you can copy the data to as many million iPods as you want. QED.

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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: CD collection
Date: 8 Feb 2008 14:27:18
Message: <47acad16$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> I can play a large section of Bach's Toccata and Fuge in D minor from
>> memory, if that makes it any better?
> 
> I was expecting you to like Bach.  He's the most mathematician-like of the
> classic composers.  But as usual, I'm impressed by your amazing ignorance about
> well-known facts.

Knowing what a tune sounds like is a "fact", is it?

> "I wouldn't recognise any of the others", the other being Beethoven and Mozart.
> Come on!  Even the chinese behind the Great Wall know Beethoven and Mozart!!

Sure, I've heard of them. But I have no idea what they sound like. You 
make it sound like a crime or something. :-P

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: CD collection
Date: 8 Feb 2008 14:32:09
Message: <47acae38@news.povray.org>
s. cinar <a### [at] bcom> wrote:
> > >    "In 2005, music sales in the UK fell by 5%. Music piracy represents a
> > > significant global problem."

> >   That's quite an amusing sentence since it contains so many non-sequitur
> > fallacies.

> I don't think it's meant to be a logical deduction (it's *two separate*
> sentences), just statement of some facts.

  Maybe technically you could see it like that, but most people will see
a "because" between the two sentences, and I'm quite sure the writer more
or less implied that.

> That said, saying that sales would have declined anyway even if hundereds of
> millions of teenagers were not pirating music over the internet is, well,
> nonsense. Did piracy reduce sales? Sure. Was piracy avoidable in the
> Internet age? No, not with the current structure of the internet anyway. It
> seems inevitable to me that things will have to change, for better or worse.

  Nobody denies that music piracy happens. However, proving that music
piracy is the reason for decreased sales is quite much harder.

  If I'm not mistaken, something similar has happened before: Radio stations
started broadcasting music, and some time after music sales dropped quite
a lot. Of course the music industry, even today, likes to make a correlation.
What they don't like to mention is that this drop happened after 1929,
which is a much more likely explanation for the decreased sales.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: CD collection
Date: 8 Feb 2008 14:34:29
Message: <47acaec5@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Warp wrote:

> >   For example the PlayStation Portable supports running programs from
> > the flash memory card directly (instead of the optical disc), but only
> > ones approved by Sony. It will refuse to run anything else.
> >   Of course in order to run them it needs to decrypt them, and to decrypt
> > them it needs a decryption key. Couldn't this key just be read from the
> > PSP's memory and use to encrypt third-party programs? The answer is: No.
> > The decryption key can be read, but it cannot be used to encrypt the
> > programs.

> Asymmetric encryption. I can see how that would work. (OTOH, couldn't 
> you just modify the firmware to not require this?)

  If the actual decryption happens in non-writable ROM memory, it would
be impossible. I don't know how it's actually done in the PSP, though.

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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: CD collection
Date: 8 Feb 2008 14:45:09
Message: <47acb145$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>> Asymmetric encryption. I can see how that would work. (OTOH, couldn't 
>> you just modify the firmware to not require this?)
> 
>   If the actual decryption happens in non-writable ROM memory, it would
> be impossible. I don't know how it's actually done in the PSP, though.

Mmm. Well. I imagine Sony has thought about this part...

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: CD collection
Date: 8 Feb 2008 14:55:01
Message: <web.47acb2efd8699a04c2a1486d0@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Sure, I've heard of them. But I have no idea what they sound like.

sure you do.  You just don't know it...


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: CD collection
Date: 8 Feb 2008 14:56:28
Message: <47acb3ec$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Sure, I've heard of them. But I have no idea what they sound like.
> 
> sure you do.  You just don't know it...

Well, no, *obviously* I've heard their music. I just couldn't tell you 
which is which, that's all.

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: CD collection
Date: 8 Feb 2008 15:10:00
Message: <web.47acb659d8699a04c2a1486d0@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Well, no, *obviously* I've heard their music.

good.  Now I don't know what amuses me the most:  that you can't distinguish
their  styles or that even being aquainted to Bach you're still listening to
that much crap from the recording industry...


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: CD collection
Date: 8 Feb 2008 15:10:11
Message: <47acb723$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:19:28 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> So, what's in *your* CD collection?

Wagner's Ring (all four operas)
Mozart early symphonies
Beethoven symphonies
Queen
Enya
The Eagles
Mannheim Steamroller
George Carlin
Clannad
A large number of movie soundtracks (Dracula, High Fidelity, LoTR)
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (all 5 radio series)
Enigma
Howard Hansen Symphonies
Shostakovich

Quite a lot of other stuff as well, that's just a sample...

Jim


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