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nemesis wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>> Random snippet: I remember when the school orchestra performed Ode To
>> Joy. (Don't ask me who wrote that.)
>
> please, man... Whenever you don't know something, do yourself and everyone a
> favor and be more curious about it; look it up somewhere.
Hey, it was probably written on the score. I just don't *remember* any
more. ;-)
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> (don't harm me, Andrew)
OK, sure. 0:-)
muhuhuuhhuh...
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Gilles Tran wrote:
> There's no much point in watching The Rocky Horror Picture Show if you're
> not in a theater with dozens of guys (and girls) in garter belts and panty
> hoses throwing rice and water and shouting every line before they appear on
> screen. If you ever find yourself in Paris, go to the Studio Galande either
> on Friday or Saturday.
> http://90plan.ovh.net/~rocky/frame.html?id=0}
Er... o_O
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nemesis wrote:
> Yes, it's just that few people really do love music for the music itself. Many
> associate certain music to special occasions in their lives and that's why they
> enjoy it foremost. Many just enjoy music as a way to get together with other
> people. Few have pleasure with just paying attention to it and marvel at the
> heartpounding transformations and transfigurations...
I'm one of those few. [Well, for sufficiently good music anyway.]
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Kevin Wampler wrote:
> I have actually heard some Tangerine Dream, though I don't actually own
> any of their music. As I recall I enjoyed it, perhaps I'll take another
> look.
My personal favourit is the impronouncible "Force Majeure". It's also
the leasst progressive and most "tune-like" album. But then again,
"Canayon Dreams" is rather good too. And don't forget Rubycon (although
it's a very short album). In fact, hell, there are too many great albums
to list...
[Especially amusing is that some of them are live AND I DIDN'T NOTICE!]
>> I have run into the name "Mogwai" several times though. I have no idea
>> what that sounds like.
>
> It's post rock, so the musical content tends to be built up by slowly
> evolving repetitive patterns. Sort of like Radiohead but more so, and
> with a bit more emphasis on drums and less on voice. They're good
> though, and the repetitive nature makes it good music to work to. If
> that's a bit hard to picture, you can listen to some of their tracks here:
>
> http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1641
Don't know Radiohead. [Obviously I've heard of them, and I've probably
heard their music, but I wouldn't recognise it.]
Hmm... this isn't really my taste.
>> Similarly, every time I go into a music shop I find myself wanting to
>> by YES albums just to look at the pictures... no idea what the music
>> sounds like.
>
> Conveniently, the same site also has some tracks by Yes:
>
> http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=105
This is a little more like it...
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:47:22 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
>
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:20:53 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> Actually, I was surprised that the Amazon downloadable Complete LOTR
>>>>> soundtracks are in MP3 format. I don't *think* there's any DRM
>>>>> involved (which was really surprising).
>>>> But maybe they can tell who bought the mp3 file by looking at it...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=mp3+watermark+amazon
>>> I'm sure they probably can. That's a bit different than DRM, though,
>>> which has the explicit stated goal of preventing people from
>>> "inappropriate use". Watermarking allows them to act reactivley - and
>>> I believe is fairly easy to remove anyways...
>>>
>>> mplayer -ao pcm:file=temp.wav file.mp3 lame -h temp.wav
>>> file-without-watermark.mp3
>> Yes, but then you assume that the watermarking is done on the bit-level.
>>
>> What if they change the music somewhat in a way that will survive format
>> conversion ? (E.g. tiny changes in volume levels within a frequency
>> band, small phase shifts, changes in the dynamic range, added noise or a
>> combination of some of these.)
>>
>> There will only have to be minor changes to the sound, as they will only
>> have to encode something like e.g. 30 bits into more than 100s of sound
>> in 2 channels.
>
> I'd think that the conversion back and forth would modify an attempt like
> this enough. Remember that mp3 encoding is lossy, not lossless.
Yes, I know. And to overcome that, just don't make the changes to the
sound THAT small.
> Of course, though, the best option is to not give the files away.
=)
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"Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
news:47adf2e9$1@news.povray.org...
> andrel wrote:
> > Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> >>
> >> Ever heard a Persian guy sing "Amazing Grace"? That song is boring at
> >> the best of times...
> >>
> > just to be sure, we are talking about this boring piece?
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pK4PtJiOPE
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3XdXEJEI4E
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHpye0M34JQ
>
> Yes, that one.
>
> (And trust me, even the most interesting song sounds boring when played
> on a guitar using 3 chords and a flat strumming rhythem. So when you
> start with a boring song in the first place... Not Good.)
On a completely different note, I like Victor Wootens version =)
I like to call it "Amazing Bass" ;]
-Nekar
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"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:08:06 +0000, Orchid XP v7 wrote:
>
> > Jim Henderson wrote:
> >
> >> You played violin? That's cool. :-)
> >>
> >> Did you just take lessons in school, or private lessons, or self-study?
> >
> > All students at my school were required to learn violin and recorder.
> > But then the music teacher retired, and the music lessens stopped.
> > Eventually they found a replacement, but we only learned how to play
> > electronic keyboard [or rather, how to call up the autobacking]. Oh, and
> > guitar. Ever heard a Persian guy sing "Amazing Grace"? That song is
> > boring at the best of times...
>
> Interesting; I was going to say that I had never heard of a school doing
> that, but we were required to learn recorder, autoharp, and to sing in
> the choir.
>
> > Interesting fact: When *you* play a violin, it sounds nothing like what
> > you hear on the TV. It sounds like somebody dragging a strip of horse
> > hair over a cheese wire. (Which, actually, is what it is.) I always
> > assumed my violin was just naff. But then one day the teacher is, like,
> > "no no Andrew, that F is flat. Give me that!" She takes my violin and
> > plays what I had just been playing. Except it sounds amazing.
> >
> > Um, OK. So it's *me* that's naff. :-|
>
> No, it just takes practice - years of practice - to get good sound out of
> an instrument (doesn't matter what). I can make my violin make horrible
> sounds as well - it has to do with getting the right pressure and speed
> of the bow across the strings - too much pressure and not enough speed,
> and it sounds exactly like you described.
>
It also depends on the type of instrument. I would say a good violinist
needs to have aquired perfect pitch. If andrew played the piano the same way
he played the violin it would sound ten times better. I would say frettless
stringed instruments are the most difficult to learn.
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Tor Olav Kristensen escribió:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 16:47:22 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
>>
>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:20:53 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Actually, I was surprised that the Amazon downloadable Complete LOTR
>>>>>> soundtracks are in MP3 format. I don't *think* there's any DRM
>>>>>> involved (which was really surprising).
>>>>> But maybe they can tell who bought the mp3 file by looking at it...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.google.com/search?q=mp3+watermark+amazon
>>>> I'm sure they probably can. That's a bit different than DRM, though,
>>>> which has the explicit stated goal of preventing people from
>>>> "inappropriate use". Watermarking allows them to act reactivley - and
>>>> I believe is fairly easy to remove anyways...
>>>>
>>>> mplayer -ao pcm:file=temp.wav file.mp3 lame -h temp.wav
>>>> file-without-watermark.mp3
>>> Yes, but then you assume that the watermarking is done on the bit-level.
>>>
>>> What if they change the music somewhat in a way that will survive format
>>> conversion ? (E.g. tiny changes in volume levels within a frequency
>>> band, small phase shifts, changes in the dynamic range, added noise or a
>>> combination of some of these.)
>>>
>>> There will only have to be minor changes to the sound, as they will only
>>> have to encode something like e.g. 30 bits into more than 100s of sound
>>> in 2 channels.
>> I'd think that the conversion back and forth would modify an attempt like
>> this enough. Remember that mp3 encoding is lossy, not lossless.
>
> Yes, I know. And to overcome that, just don't make the changes to the
> sound THAT small.
Yeah, encode the username in the lyrics. Hey, I can hear my name if I
play this song backwards!
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Nekar wrote:
> I would say frettless
> stringed instruments are the most difficult to learn.
Ain't that the truth!
Still, it's not *so* hard after enough practice. The hard thing is that
the top E string is like cheese wire. You can *hurt* yourself on that
thing! o_O
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