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> (my point being that Andy
> thinks he sucks at things he's never tried, and if that's the criteria,
> then we all suck at even more things <g>)
By that definition, I suck at sex.
Which may or may not be true, IDK.
(Hmm... maybe "suck" is the wrong term...)
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:02:52 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> (my point being that Andy
>> thinks he sucks at things he's never tried, and if that's the criteria,
>> then we all suck at even more things <g>)
>
>By that definition, I suck at sex.
>
>Which may or may not be true, IDK.
>
>(Hmm... maybe "suck" is the wrong term...)
At least you've still got your humour :)
Keep it up.
Regards
Stephen
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> andrel wrote:
>> You mean that there are no dialects in France?
>
> This is France, where they have government departments to outlaw saying
> things like "le weekend". ;-)
>
With a rather limited success, I should say :-D
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> Vincent Le Chevalier wrote:
>> and none of the numerous variants in English :-)
>
> with "May" in English (altho of course without the long trailing off "y"
> had to cheat to get D's in French class. Altho, surprisingly, I did
> fairly well when I spent a month in Paris. Overall strange.
>
probably miss a good amount of nuance in my english pronunciation...
You can get away with "mistakes" like that pretty easily in everyday
life, though. Overall I think French is fairly forgiving on vowels
compared to English.
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Vincent
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:01:51 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> I'm pretty sure we've had this conversation before... It basically
>>> amounts to "I don't know where to start".
>>
>> Cheap way: Read the news (while trying to gain the skill of what news
>> to read and what not to).
>
>I never do this. The news is far too damn depressing.
>
And lies (or is that BS or spin). I don't read much in the papers (deliberate
decision after working for a tabloid years ago) I listen to the radio where I've
a better chance of recognising BS.
>> Expensive way: Travel.
>
>I never did understand how travel is supposed to teach you anything.
>(Other than how to feel lost and afraid - which I already know how to do.)
It teaches you how to cope. You're story a few years ago about being invited to
the US office reminded me about my first trip abroad. 1974 and a week in Paris
for a training course. I was terrified about going, I could not speak French and
I would starve, get lost and make a fool of myself. My wife almost kicked me out
of the house to make me go. That experience changed my life, I found out what
food should taste like and I survived the travel.
It is not the actual travelling that broadens your mind but seeing that you can
do "hard" things. I still cannot speak any other language other than English but
I have travelled throughout Europe and other places, getting by, by looking at
people, speaking in a soft tone, smiling and pointing.
It has made me much more confident and a more interesting conversationalist (I
hope).
Some old codger's advice: When you are older it is the things that you've not
done that you regret not the things you have done.
Regards
Stephen
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Can someone clear that bit up for me?
no. d o e s n o t c o m p l e t e....
;)
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Vincent Le Chevalier wrote:
>> Vincent Le Chevalier wrote:
>>
>> with "May" in English (altho of course without the long trailing off
>> then I had to cheat to get D's in French class. Altho, surprisingly, I
>> did fairly well when I spent a month in Paris. Overall strange.
>
> probably miss a good amount of nuance in my english pronunciation...
I'd concur. Imagine 'may' pronounced by a Londoner, and you're a very
between 'ay' and 'ee' but 2/3 of the way towards 'ee' would be my best
guess!
B
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> > (my point being that Andy
> > thinks he sucks at things he's never tried, and if that's the criteria,
> > then we all suck at even more things <g>)
>
> By that definition, I suck at sex.
>
> Which may or may not be true, IDK.
>
> (Hmm... maybe "suck" is the wrong term...)
oh, man! you just made me blow some coffee from my nose! LOL...
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>> Which may or may not be true, IDK.
>>
>> (Hmm... maybe "suck" is the wrong term...)
>
> oh, man! you just made me blow some coffee from my nose! LOL...
Yays! I win!! :-D
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:01:51 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>> Cheap way: Read the news (while trying to gain the skill of what
news
>> to read and what not to).
>
> I never do this. The news is far too damn depressing.
That's why the skill of learning what to read and what not to is so
important to develop. Learning to filter is an important skill.
At the same time, I agree that the news is too depressing most of the
time - I don't watch news on TV, because usually it's a body count
followed by some human interest story about someone's dog. If I watch it
at all, it's to see what the weather's going to be like, but usually I'll
just read the forecasts online.
>> Expensive way: Travel.
>
> I never did understand how travel is supposed to teach you anything.
> (Other than how to feel lost and afraid - which I already know how to
> do.)
Going places and interacting with people teaches you about how people
behave. To avoid the feeling of being lost, get a GPS (when I would
travel to teach, I'd always get a GPS in the rental car - that way, I
could find places to go eat and not worry about being able to find my way
back to the hotel).
Depending on where you travel to, of course, you need to do some research
ahead of time to know where it's safe to go and where it's not safe to
go. Even when driving around some small towns, I'd pick places to go eat
and I'd drive past them before stopping to see if the area looked safe.
If it didn't (which happened on more than one occasion), I wouldn't stop.
"Travel" doesn't always have to be to faraway places, either. It's about
getting out and observing people, and then interacting with them.
Jim
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