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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Inspiration and/or coincidence
Date: 26 Jan 2008 19:40:00
Message: <web.479bd2982801d61a8164e96c0@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > you know, I really hate youtube.
>
> Check out vixy.net then.

whoa!  many thanks, man!


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Inspiration and/or coincidence
Date: 26 Jan 2008 21:16:24
Message: <479be978$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:33:25 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 26 Jan 2008 18:20:42 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>Mmmmm, beer....
> 
> Hmmmm, opium :)

I wouldn't know about that, have only had beer (well, and wine, and a few 
other boozy beverages).

Jim


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: Inspiration and/or coincidence
Date: 26 Jan 2008 23:06:31
Message: <479c0347$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:

 >> That guy is a d*ck. Neither "wasn't a photo" nor "cg" nor "made in
 >> Povray" is completely accurate.

 > what's the problem with the guy's description of how it happened?
 > That work can indeed be thought to be a photo.  And it is in fact
 > Computer Graphics.  Rendered with Povray.  What exactly is wrong?

The problem with the guy's description is that the parts for which he 
can take credit aren't very good.

"wasn't a photo" : much of the detail came from photos
"cg" : only some of it
"MADE in Povray" : only a small portion was MADE in Pov-Ray/Bryce

The trick isn't in downloading models, scanning photos, or modeling a 
lamp post. The trick is making it all look good together. Johnyf's 
version doesn't look that good. It looks like the wallpaper in a Subway 
sandwich shop (if those exist where you live). IMO, for johnyf to let 
comments like, "this is (a) ... dense and detailed scene" pass is dishonest.

  -Shay


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Inspiration and/or coincidence
Date: 27 Jan 2008 02:27:38
Message: <479c326a@news.povray.org>
Gilles Tran <gitran_nospam_@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> A Bryce user recreated my Wet Bird image from scratch:
> http://www.renderosity.com/mod/gallery/index.php?image_id=1604419&member
> Original image http://www.oyonale.com/image.php?lang=en&mode=info&code=464

  I like your original much more. That recreation is way too clean, and
objects seem to be out of place (for example the fire hydrant and the
man with the umbrella; in your image they are much more submersive and
look like they indeed *are* in the scene; in the recreation they look
like artificially added props).

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Inspiration and/or coincidence
Date: 27 Jan 2008 04:35:14
Message: <u0kop3hm64rmslrigkc4p7hug3cvhg82a9@4ax.com>
On 26 Jan 2008 21:16:24 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:33:25 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 26 Jan 2008 18:20:42 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> 
>>>Mmmmm, beer....
>> 
>> Hmmmm, opium :)
>
>I wouldn't know about that, have only had beer (well, and wine, and a few 
>other boozy beverages).
>
>Jim

I don't have a lot of experience with opium, myself. But I'm a second dan
smartarse :)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Inspiration and/or coincidence
Date: 27 Jan 2008 15:29:00
Message: <479ce98c$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:34:31 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> I don't have a lot of experience with opium, myself. But I'm a second
> dan smartarse

Oh, now, I can claim experience at that. ;-)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Inspiration and/or coincidence
Date: 28 Jan 2008 03:45:39
Message: <hg5rp3l31kthjqtqjeu7ub4njontlkoet2@4ax.com>
On 27 Jan 2008 15:29:00 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:34:31 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> I don't have a lot of experience with opium, myself. But I'm a second
>> dan smartarse
>
>Oh, now, I can claim experience at that. ;-)
>
>Jim

LOL
A big club getting bigger :)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Inspiration and/or coincidence
Date: 28 Jan 2008 07:48:12
Message: <479dcf0c$1@news.povray.org>
Gilles Tran wrote:

> Also interesting, this commercial for the beer Miller Lite
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EUGhnQ8Cjk

Very similar to another commercial I remember seeing, actually. I wish I 
could remember the product. I think it had something to do with stress. 
It was essentially a moving pile of junk. Every time I saw it, I kept 
thinking of your images, how you had so many that had piles of things, 
sometimes taking shapes and forms.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Inspiration and/or coincidence
Date: 28 Jan 2008 07:52:13
Message: <479dcffd@news.povray.org>
> Very similar to another commercial I remember seeing, actually. I wish I 
> could remember the product. I think it had something to do with stress. 
> It was essentially a moving pile of junk. Every time I saw it, I kept 
> thinking of your images, how you had so many that had piles of things, 
> sometimes taking shapes and forms.

We had (have?) some on TV here for a big hardware store:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y25_xQsA5Q


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Inspiration and/or coincidence
Date: 28 Jan 2008 10:56:47
Message: <479dfb3f$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:45:40 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> LOL
> A big club getting bigger

Absolutely. :-)

Jim


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