On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:20:37 -0500, Chambers wrote:

> Again, Andrew's total is 11 828, putting him at #1.  Are you noticing a
> pattern?

I had noticed that and was going to comment on it, but didn't. :-)

> ....
> 
> I remember somebody once posted stats for this group from its inception,
> not just the current messages; is anyone still doing this?

Not I; don't have access to a full dump of all messages ever posted.  I 
just pulled all header info and used that, since an NNTP server is 
supposed to expire headers and bodies at the same time, unless there's 
overview file corruption (which is where much/all of the header info 
comes from).

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:41:52 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> Hmmm, so why is the older message still there?

I don't know.
Maybe the news server is slightly misconfigured ?
- Or perhaps it's a tiny bug somewhere ?

> Even still, though, Nov 20 is more than 2 weeks ago...

Yes, that's a bit odd.
Maybe they have changed the timeout period for p.o-t (?)

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:29:58 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:41:52 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> Hmmm, so why is the older message still there?
> 
> I don't know.
> Maybe the news server is slightly misconfigured ? - Or perhaps it's a
> tiny bug somewhere ?

I know on Twister (the server I'm more familiar with), something like 
this could happen if the overview cache was corrupted, but I'd expect to 
see other strange things in the groups as well (missing messages and 
such).

>> Even still, though, Nov 20 is more than 2 weeks ago...
> 
> Yes, that's a bit odd.
> Maybe they have changed the timeout period for p.o-t (?)

Possibly.

I could check another group, I suppose - or all groups, and compare.

Jim

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Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:41:52 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Hmmm, so why is the older message still there?
> 
> I don't know.
> Maybe the news server is slightly misconfigured ?
> - Or perhaps it's a tiny bug somewhere ?

Speaking of which, the oldest message I see is titled "Re: The bush 
pilot", posted by Patrick Elliot, with a date of 8/23/2006 3:18pm.

Even when I have Thunderbird remove all expired articles (which it is 
SUPPOSED to do automatically... grr), it remains.

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"Chambers" <bdc### [at] yahoocom> wrote in message 
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> I remember somebody once posted stats for this group from its inception, 
> not
> just the current messages; is anyone still doing this?

     I think it was Stephen Lenehan iirc.

       ~Steve~


>
> ....Chambers
> www.pacificwebguy.com
>

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In article <47994ea8$1@news.povray.org>, ben### [at] pacificwebguycom says...
> Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> > Jim Henderson wrote:
> >> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:41:52 +0100, Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> Hmmm, so why is the older message still there?
> > 
> > I don't know.
> > Maybe the news server is slightly misconfigured ?
> > - Or perhaps it's a tiny bug somewhere ?
> 
> Speaking of which, the oldest message I see is titled "Re: The bush 
> pilot", posted by Patrick Elliot, with a date of 8/23/2006 3:18pm.
> 
> Even when I have Thunderbird remove all expired articles (which it is 
> SUPPOSED to do automatically... grr), it remains.
> 
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I'll look for this in the enormous amount of files and I'll let you know 
later, sorry for the delay.

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Jim Henderson escribió:
> You may only be downloading 2 weeks worth in SeaMonkey; I looked directly 
> at the server, and in Pan, I just downloaded messages from early December 
> as well as the earliest message dated Nov 21 2007:

I understood I was  wrong here

> That your reader isn't pulling messages from > 2 weeks ago doesn't mean 
> that those messages do not exist on the server.

I know

> I hope *that* clears it up once and for all.  10 weeks worth of messages 
> exist on the server.  *Not* 2.
> 
> Jim

You don't need to be that emphatic, I understand a clarification when I 
see it.

  I apologize, you were right.

Regards.

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If it's only your local cache of headers and you can't retrieve the body 
from the server then that doesn't count, counts when you can.

But Jim proof me wrong alright with his news reader.

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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:42:13 -0400, Saul Luizaga wrote:

>   I apologize, you were right.

No problem. :-)

Jim

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