Phil Cook <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
> but you can select sections  
> cut/copy them out and paste them into a later or earlier point if that's  
> what you mean.

  VirtualDub is really awkward for that purpose. It's not a video editing
software, it never was.

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Cinelerra is what I've played with, not sure if there's a Windows version 
though (but I think there is).  It's OSS and supposed to be quite good, 
but the learning curve is pretty steep.

Jim

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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:15:58 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> Well, *you* try finding software that will encode it. (Without paying
> money.) Plenty of decoders, no (free) encoders.

http://www.mplayerhq.hu

mencoder will create MPEG-2 files just fine.  IIRC, Windows version 
available.

Jim

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And lo on Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:26:17 -0000, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> did  
spake, saying:

> Phil Cook <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>> but you can select sections
>> cut/copy them out and paste them into a later or earlier point if that's
>> what you mean.
>
>   VirtualDub is really awkward for that purpose. It's not a video editing
> software, it never was.

No if it was you could work and mix multiple files, but if you just want  
to trim the "Is it on?" at the beginning or take out that guy making rude  
gestures at the camera or make it look like the Queen is storming out of a  
photo session rather then into one; then it'll do that with relative ease.

For what it sounds like Andy wants to do I agree it won't work, but it  
could be used to clean up his separate files first.

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"Invisible" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message
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>
> Well, *you* try finding software that will encode it. (Without paying
> money.) Plenty of decoders, no (free) encoders.
>

Yup. Very hard
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=free+dvd+encoder&btnG=Google+Search&met
a=
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=free+mpeg-2+encoder&btnG=Search&meta=

My laptop came with Roxio's MyDvd Basic installed. No idea how much it is to
but. I've only used it once (convert 2 DivX encoded videos to a DVD so my
parents could watch them)

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Invisible wrote:
> So, I've got something to turn frames into video, and something to turn 
> video into a playable DVD. Anybody know of something good for editing 
> inbetween?

For Windows, I use ULead Movie Factory. I tried about a dozen different 
such programs (a few years back, mind), and ULead's software was the 
only one that didn't give me artifacts. Everyone else's "best" quality 
was worse than ulead's "smallest" quality - I suspect ulead was the only 
one generating B frames.

Other than that, google around. Most of the programs have free demos 
that'll only do like 5 minutes at a time.

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Invisible wrote:
> Take several chunks of video. Cut 'em up. Stick them back together in a 
> different order. Maybe remove bits or duplicate them. Repeat until it 
> looks good.

iMovie or iDVD or something like that on Macs. (Comes with?)

Windows Movie Maker (comes with Windows XP, IIRC, or is a free download).

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In article <478e2218@news.povray.org>, war### [at] tagpovrayorg says...
> Phil Cook <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
> > but you can select sections  
> > cut/copy them out and paste them into a later or earlier point if that'
s  
> > what you mean.
> 
>   VirtualDub is really awkward for that purpose. It's not a video editing
> software, it never was.
> 
Hmm. In line with this, just wondering if there is some way to feed 
something through it to fix a problem I have? My father, being a major 
dope about video cameras, treated it like a picture camera and recorded 
sections of videos sideways... I know in theory that you could pull the 
audio out, strip the stream down to individual frames, rotate those to a 
normal orientation, then restream it all, but I wasn't sure if there was 
any way to use VirtualDub or one of the other free tools that exist to 
manage that. Its certainly not something you are going to run into often 
enough for them to have provided a way to fix this in the software that 
came with it. Which isn't that bad, once you get past the confusion of 
how to crop out bits you don't want (you have to select the part you 
want to keep, not get rid of, which to me is completely backwards).

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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:25:23 +0100, Patrick Elliott <sel### [at] rraznet>  
wrote:
> Hmm. In line with this, just wondering if there is some way to feed
> something through it to fix a problem I have? My father, being a major
> dope about video cameras, treated it like a picture camera and recorded
> sections of videos sideways... I know in theory that you could pull the
> audio out, strip the stream down to individual frames, rotate those to a
> normal orientation, then restream it all, but I wasn't sure if there was
> any way to use VirtualDub or one of the other free tools that exist to
> manage that.


I recall there being a 'rotate' filter in VirtualDub.



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> So, what do people here use for editing video?

Windows Movie Maker

Should be in your start menu somewhere if you have XP or Vista installed.

Very easy to use, can add clips together, fade between them, add text, add 
audio tracks etc.  Not as many features as a real editing software, but it's 
free and does the basics.

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