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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Fatal curiosity
Date: 14 Jan 2008 02:21:54
Message: <478b0d92@news.povray.org>
Sherry Shaw wrote:

> *cat* knows what happened."  

That was exactly the point of the thought-experiment. At what level of 
sophistication does the "observer" collapse the possibilities? The 
argument was over whether having instruments there was sufficient to 
"collapse the wave form", or whether someone actually had to look at the 
instruments.

</fuddyduddy>

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   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: Fatal curiosity
Date: 14 Jan 2008 03:11:44
Message: <478b1940$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Sherry Shaw wrote:
>> whether or not Schrödinger's Lab Assistant looks in the box, because 
>> the *cat* knows what happened."  
> 
> That was exactly the point of the thought-experiment. At what level of 
> sophistication does the "observer" collapse the possibilities? The 
> argument was over whether having instruments there was sufficient to 
> "collapse the wave form", or whether someone actually had to look at the 
> instruments.
> 
> </fuddyduddy>

"If nobody can observe you, you don't exist."

-- 
Tim Cook
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Fatal curiosity
Date: 14 Jan 2008 03:45:45
Message: <478b2139@news.povray.org>
Tim Cook <z99### [at] bellsouthnet> wrote:
> "If nobody can observe you, you don't exist."

  Perhaps that answers the question "If a tree falls in a forest and no one
is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Fatal curiosity
Date: 14 Jan 2008 04:17:23
Message: <478b28a3@news.povray.org>
> --Sherry "Crazy Cat Lady" Shaw

LOL! I can *so* picture that...

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Fatal curiosity
Date: 14 Jan 2008 04:18:29
Message: <478b28e5$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Cook wrote:

> "If nobody can observe you, you don't exist."

I have this feeling almost every day...

It's like I'm invisible or something. Oh, wait...

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Fatal curiosity
Date: 14 Jan 2008 04:18:53
Message: <478b28fd$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   Perhaps that answers the question "If a tree falls in a forest and no one
> is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"

So... if a man speaks in a forest and no women is there to hear him... 
is he still wrong?

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Fatal curiosity
Date: 14 Jan 2008 04:19:26
Message: <478b291e$1@news.povray.org>
>> As someone else said. Imagine the conversation at the hospital, then 
>> imagine the roaring laughter of the doctors and staff ...
> 
> I think they would be already used to people a lot more stupid.

Lamentably yes...

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Fatal curiosity
Date: 14 Jan 2008 05:08:19
Message: <op.t4wzqvyec3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:39:09 -0000, Kyle <hob### [at] gatenet> did  
spake, saying:

> On 11 Jan 2008 11:52:04 -0500, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curiosity_Kills_the_Cat
>
> <snip>The frequent rejoinder to 'curiosity killed the cat' is  
> 'satisfaction brought it back'.</snip>
>
> I've never heard that one.  I'll have to use it next time someone feeds  
> me the curisoity line.

Around here it normally goes "but satisfaction brought it back". Heard it  
all my life, just goes to show how some 'common' sayings aren't really  
considered in a wider context. Unlike "all round the Wrekin" which is  
definitely local.

-- 
Phil Cook

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Fatal curiosity
Date: 14 Jan 2008 05:11:49
Message: <op.t4wzwprmc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:21:10 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

> Warp wrote:
>
>>   Perhaps that answers the question "If a tree falls in a forest and no  
>> one
>> is around to hear it, does it make a sound?"
>
> So... if a man speaks in a forest and no women is there to hear him...  
> is he still wrong?

Yes by definition any male opinion is wrong regardless of location or  
audience.

The last man on Earth sat contemplating his woes "Alone, so alone"
At which point the last women on Earth walks up just to contradict him.

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Fatal curiosity
Date: 14 Jan 2008 05:15:57
Message: <op.t4wz3mf6c3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:29:00 -0000, Nicolas Alvarez  
<nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> did spake, saying:


>> As someone else said. Imagine the conversation at the hospital, then  
>> imagine the roaring laughter of the doctors and staff ...
>
> I think they would be already used to people a lot more stupid.

No doubt from the patients answering the obvious question with "I  
accidentally sat on it" ;-)

-- 
Phil Cook

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