Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> The problem is, I watched this thing, and it just seemed to be a fairly 
> random assemblage of different images with no obvious connection or 
> meaning. 

Much of it was, actually. The main point was to demonstrate special 
effects. The plot was secondary. That's why they spend so long on things 
like showing space ships coming over the horizon (first matte painting), 
pens floating in air, jogging around the inside of a centrifuge, and so on.

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Mike the Elder wrote:
> #2 The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover
>    (Friendly warning: this film is considered offensive by several folks
>    who are generally rather difficult to offend, myself included.)

Ah yes, the only movie I ever walked out of during the opening credits. 
Bleh.

Also the only movie where the door had a sign saying "if you want your 
money back, just ask."
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nemesis wrote:
> Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> The problem is, I watched this thing, and it just seemed to be a fairly
>> random assemblage of different images with no obvious connection or
>> meaning.
> 
> surely there is this huge visual clue connecting it all together, namely a black
> monolith?  Note the story isn't about people or any character in particular...

So... it's a story about an inanimate black brick?

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Darren New wrote:

> Pan's Labrynth is like that, except exactly opposite.

OMG, that's quotable...

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Darren New wrote:

> Also the only movie where the door had a sign saying "if you want your 
> money back, just ask."

Woah... that's *advanced*! o_O

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Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> 
>> Pan's Labrynth is like that, except exactly opposite.
> 
> OMG, that's quotable...

I had already seen the movie, and I was reading the review going "WTF? 
What movie did *this* guy watch?" until I got to the end, which I still 
giggle over.

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >> Alien artifact. To kickstart human evolution.
> >   Intelligent Design! ;)
>
> That's one of the several ways in which you can have designed humans
> without God, which is why I don't understand the position of "evolution
> has problems, therefore it must be God."  :-)

tell me then who designed the alien designers? ;)

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> The main point was to demonstrate special
> effects. The plot was secondary. That's why they spend so long on things
> like showing space ships coming over the horizon (first matte painting),
> pens floating in air, jogging around the inside of a centrifuge, and so on.

Cinema is a visual medium.  And 2001 excels at this, with very powerful and
poetic imagery:  the famous opening with the sun rise from space at the sound
of Richard Strauss' finest; the bone flowing into air and cutting to the ship;
or the ships ballet in space with Blue Danube...

ironically, much more impacting than most CG orgies showing these days...

the plot was secondary?!  An enigmatic monolith sparking intelligence, a
paranoid AI and a men's quest for survival going beyond the beyond should be
enough...

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Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> The problem is, I watched this thing, and it just seemed to be a fairly
> >> random assemblage of different images with no obvious connection or
> >> meaning.
> >
> > surely there is this huge visual clue connecting it all together, namely a black
> > monolith?  Note the story isn't about people or any character in particular...
>
> So... it's a story about an inanimate black brick?

yeah, that's the materialist take...

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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>>> Alien artifact. To kickstart human evolution.
>>>   Intelligent Design! ;)
>> That's one of the several ways in which you can have designed humans
>> without God, which is why I don't understand the position of "evolution
>> has problems, therefore it must be God."  :-)
> 
> tell me then who designed the alien designers? ;)

It's monoliths all the way down!

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