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From: scott
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 7 Nov 2007 05:35:59
Message: <4731950f$1@news.povray.org>
>> No, but it's a typical value with some tolerance.  On our drawings we 
>> always have stuff that is labelled like 16.68 +/- 0.20 mm, if they made 
>> all the parts with an average of 16.66 mm then some of them wouldn't fit 
>> together properly.
>
> As I understand it, the stuff you make is somewhat smaller than a 
> building. ;-)

Exactly the same principles though.

Imagine you have a rise of 3050mm that you want to meet with 10 steps, and 
you can make each step with a tolerance of +/- 50 mm.

You might specify each step as 305 +/ 50 mm, which will give you a total 
height of 3050 +/- 50 mm.  Using your argument though, you would say the 305 
is pointless and you may as well just say 300.  That would make every 
staircase 5cm out on average!

In buildings I would imagine that lots of distances add up, and if you don't 
at least aim to make each one correct, then at some point something is not 
going to fit.


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From: Fa3ien
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 7 Nov 2007 08:07:20
Message: <4731b888$1@news.povray.org>

> scott wrote:
>>>> That's because people who build the stairs works with that order
>>>> of tolerance (mm).
>>>
>>> So... what the hell do you do if you build some stairs, and the 
>>> sement sinks by 0.4 mm while drying? (A perfectly likely outcome.) 
>>> Then each step might be 0.4 mm out...! No noes! o_O
>>
>> Who secures stairs in place by resting them on unset concrete? :-S
> 
> I was thinking more that the *stairs* are made of concrete...

Concrete stairs are usually build in a workshop, poured into
a plywood form, upside-down (so the walking surface is at
the bottom of the form, giving a mostly perfect look and
dimensioning to the visible parts).

Fabien.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 7 Nov 2007 08:24:18
Message: <4731bc82@news.povray.org>
Fa3ien wrote:

>> I was thinking more that the *stairs* are made of concrete...
> 
> Concrete stairs are usually build in a workshop, poured into
> a plywood form, upside-down (so the walking surface is at
> the bottom of the form, giving a mostly perfect look and
> dimensioning to the visible parts).

Really? I assumed they made them on-site. (And that that was the 
principle advantage of making stairs out of such an otherwise 
unattractive material when numerious better alternatives exist.)

Oh well, you learn something every day. ;-)

(Did you know, Boron is what makes silly putty so weird?)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 8 Nov 2007 19:16:39
Message: <4733a6e7@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> You might specify each step as 305 +/ 50 mm, which will give you a total 
> height of 3050 +/- 50 mm. 

Did you mean 305 +/- 5mm?

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     Remember the good old days, when we
     used to complain about cryptography
     being export-restricted?


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Plans
Date: 9 Nov 2007 03:57:35
Message: <473420ff$1@news.povray.org>
>> You might specify each step as 305 +/ 50 mm, which will give you a total 
>> height of 3050 +/- 50 mm.
>
> Did you mean 305 +/- 5mm?

Oops yes, actually no, thinking a little more about it the correct one would 
be 305 +/- 15.8.  (tolerances like this are normal distributions, not 
uniform...)


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