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From: J  Kim
Subject: NetRay around?
Date: 10 Jan 2000 00:20:21
Message: <38796C2D.DDAAE2A3@mm.ewha.ac.kr>
Dear all,

 I've seen some description about the NetRay, TCP/IP protocol Microsoft
NT-based  distributed POVray program. Is the NetRay also available for
Windows98 ?


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: NetRay around?
Date: 10 Jan 2000 02:29:37
Message: <387989C9.ED692FBF@pacbell.net>
"J. Kim" wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
>  I've seen some description about the NetRay, TCP/IP protocol Microsoft
> NT-based  distributed POVray program. Is the NetRay also available for
> Windows98 ?

That is a product that Mikael Carneholm is working on but has not yet made
available to the public. It seems to have been in stasis for some time now
and I have not heard if he ever plans on finishing it. If you want I can
probably dig up his email address for you so you can discuss it further
with him.

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: J  Kim
Subject: Re: NetRay around?
Date: 10 Jan 2000 05:37:39
Message: <3879B687.99ADC636@mm.ewha.ac.kr>
Thank you so much, Ken.

Jong

Ken wrote:

> "J. Kim" wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> >  I've seen some description about the NetRay, TCP/IP protocol Microsoft
> > NT-based  distributed POVray program. Is the NetRay also available for
> > Windows98 ?
>
> That is a product that Mikael Carneholm is working on but has not yet made
> available to the public. It seems to have been in stasis for some time now
> and I have not heard if he ever plans on finishing it. If you want I can
> probably dig up his email address for you so you can discuss it further
> with him.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: NetRay around?
Date: 10 Jan 2000 05:49:05
Message: <j6ej7sc4c75aftvdgtn0g53v9btqnikiru@4ax.com>
If you need it here it is, Ken:

Mikael Carneholm
Dep. of Computer Science and Business Administration


Personal homepage:
http://www.studenter.hb.se/~arch
E-mail:
sa9### [at] idautbhbse

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On Sun, 09 Jan 2000 23:27:05 -0800 Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>If you want I can probably dig up his email address for you so you
>can discuss it further with him.


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From: J Kim
Subject: Re: NetRay around?
Date: 10 Jan 2000 10:04:40
Message: <3879F509.FA97E9EB@shinbiro.com>
BTW, is the IMP-Pov similar  to this NetRay (in case this NetRay is fully
developed)? I just saw your comment about the 'Rendering in a network' thread.

Thanks,
Jong
Ken wrote:

> "J. Kim" wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> >  I've seen some description about the NetRay, TCP/IP protocol Microsoft
> > NT-based  distributed POVray program. Is the NetRay also available for
> > Windows98 ?
>
> That is a product that Mikael Carneholm is working on but has not yet made
> available to the public. It seems to have been in stasis for some time now
> and I have not heard if he ever plans on finishing it. If you want I can
> probably dig up his email address for you so you can discuss it further
> with him.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: NetRay around?
Date: 10 Jan 2000 10:36:23
Message: <3879FB04.36CDDDE9@pacbell.net>
J Kim wrote:
> 
> BTW, is the IMP-Pov similar  to this NetRay (in case this NetRay is fully
> developed)? I just saw your comment about the 'Rendering in a network' thread.

It is similar but it is currently not avialable to the general public.
I am working on removing this restriction but have not heard back from
the people in charge of that web site yet.

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: NetRay around?
Date: 10 Jan 2000 10:59:27
Message: <387a01df@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:30:12 -0800, Ken wrote:
>
>
>J Kim wrote:
>> 
>> BTW, is the IMP-Pov similar  to this NetRay (in case this NetRay is fully
>> developed)? I just saw your comment about the 'Rendering in a network' thread.
>
>It is similar but it is currently not avialable to the general public.

Just to emphasize what's already in my .sig, I'm speaking for myself only here, 
but is that a violation of this clause in POVLEGAL, or is this a separate 
program that just invokes a separate copy of POV-Ray on each client machine?

 Custom versions may only be distributed as freeware. You must make all of your 
 modifications to POV-Ray freely and publicly available with FULL SOURCE CODE 
 to the modified portions of POV-Ray and must freely distribute full source to 
 any new parts of the custom version. 

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The superpatch: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/superpatch/
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From: Ken
Subject: Re: NetRay around?
Date: 10 Jan 2000 11:13:16
Message: <387A035D.C19DAF56@pacbell.net>
Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 07:30:12 -0800, Ken wrote:
> >
> >
> >J Kim wrote:
> >>
> >> BTW, is the IMP-Pov similar  to this NetRay (in case this NetRay is fully
> >> developed)? I just saw your comment about the 'Rendering in a network' thread.
> >
> >It is similar but it is currently not avialable to the general public.
> 
> Just to emphasize what's already in my .sig, I'm speaking for myself only here,
> but is that a violation of this clause in POVLEGAL, or is this a separate
> program that just invokes a separate copy of POV-Ray on each client machine?

As far as I know it is a complete custom compile of the program that has
added functionality. How and what it does can be answered by Nigel Stewart
who worked on most of it's implementation.
 
>  Custom versions may only be distributed as freeware. You must make all of your
>  modifications to POV-Ray freely and publicly available with FULL SOURCE CODE
>  to the modified portions of POV-Ray and must freely distribute full source to
>  any new parts of the custom version.

It is only unavailable to the general public because it is stored on a
password protected server - the IMP home page is for members only. Other
than that it was created under full compliance of POV-Legal. There is
no cost to download the program but to get access to it you have to join
the IMP so as to get access to the private pages.

I see no conflict here.

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: NetRay around?
Date: 10 Jan 2000 11:22:51
Message: <387a075b@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:05:49 -0800, Ken wrote:

>I see no conflict here.

No conflict between "publicly available" and "available only to IMP
members"?  I'm not sure I concur.

-- 
These are my opinions.  I do NOT speak for the POV-Team.
The superpatch: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/superpatch/
My other stuff: http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: NetRay around?
Date: 10 Jan 2000 11:35:16
Message: <387A083C.A965C940@pacbell.net>
Ron Parker wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:05:49 -0800, Ken wrote:
> 
> >I see no conflict here.
> 
> No conflict between "publicly available" and "available only to IMP
> members"?  I'm not sure I concur.

I guess it's time to ask Chris Cason for a clarification then...

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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