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From: Peter Hertel
Subject: SV: Why povray?
Date: 16 Feb 2000 12:04:18
Message: <38aad892@news.povray.org>
> Linux still has a lot to go thru before it can take
> over MS WIndows.

I know a lot of people running Linux, and I will too If windoze 98 screws up
again.. (fifth time in 3 months or so?)
The only reason Windows is the main operation system, is that it comes with
any new machine..

> If you hate Bill Gates... don't use his software. Not that I like him..
but I
> do respect him

I don't.. did you know he stole dos from his best friend, which had actually
made it?
Gates went rich , but his friend got nothing..

--
Peter
http://hertel.no/bigone


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From: Matt Giwer
Subject: Re: SV: Why povray?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 04:40:44
Message: <38AD058C.C4F9BFD4@ij.net>
Peter Hertel wrote:

> I know a lot of people running Linux, and I will too If windoze 98 screws up
> again.. (fifth time in 3 months or so?)
> The only reason Windows is the main operation system, is that it comes with
> any new machine..

    5th in 3mon? How about reinstalling 98 once a week for the last three weeks?

    Just downloaded Redhat 6.1 image and have the install disk burned. Real soon
now.


    Not griping at all just the state of my art.

--
Whatever happened to the Kerbs and the Sosovars?


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From: Margus Ramst
Subject: Re: SV: Why povray?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 12:27:01
Message: <38AD8168.C2020C1F@peak.edu.ee>
Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>5th in 3mon? How about reinstalling 98 once a week for the last three weeks?
> 

Whoa! That's a bit over the top. Are you sure it's a Windows problem, as opposed
to hardware problem?

Margus


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: SV: Why povray?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 16:00:07
Message: <HoStOKrfIyUjS=VlwF3nns5O3UaP@4ax.com>
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:40:45 -0500, Matt Giwer <jul### [at] ijnet> wrote:

>Peter Hertel wrote:
>
>> I know a lot of people running Linux, and I will too If windoze 98 screws up
>> again.. (fifth time in 3 months or so?)
>> The only reason Windows is the main operation system, is that it comes with
>> any new machine..
>
>    5th in 3mon? How about reinstalling 98 once a week for the last three weeks?

In the past 100 hours, 242 reboots...
                           ...and counting...


Peter Popov
pet### [at] tagpovrayorg
ICQ: 15002700


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: SV: Why povray?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 16:55:35
Message: <38ADBF7F.AC52188@pacbell.net>
Peter Popov wrote:

> In the past 100 hours, 242 reboots...
>                            ...and counting...

My current Win 98 session has been running 342 hr. 42 min. without
a single reboot, GPF, or BSOD.

You guys sure you know how to run a computer ?

-- 
Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: SV: Why povray?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 17:13:30
Message: <38adc40a@news.povray.org>
I thought it was par for the course to reboot once in awhile :-)
Last time was yesterday, time before that may have been a couple weeks ago.  I
don't think of it as Win98 as much as I do the stuff I have plugged into my PC
and the stuff that's running on it.  The software I install can be pretty
archaic sometimes.
However, it would be nice to not have to push the warm-boot button at all... but
isn't Linux just pushing it for you?  That's sort of what I hear is the idea
anyway.

Bob

"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:38A### [at] pacbellnet...
|
|
| Peter Popov wrote:
|
| > In the past 100 hours, 242 reboots...
| >                            ...and counting...
|
| My current Win 98 session has been running 342 hr. 42 min. without
| a single reboot, GPF, or BSOD.
|
| You guys sure you know how to run a computer ?
|
| --
| Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
| http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: SV: Why povray?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 17:32:25
Message: <slrn8ar4f5.9he.sjlen@zero-pps.localdomain>
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:40:45 -0500, Matt Giwer <jul### [at] ijnet> wrote:
>Peter Hertel wrote:
>
>> I know a lot of people running Linux, and I will too If windoze 98 screws up
>> again.. (fifth time in 3 months or so?)
>> The only reason Windows is the main operation system, is that it comes with
>> any new machine..
>
>    5th in 3mon? How about reinstalling 98 once a week for the last three weeks?
>
>    Just downloaded Redhat 6.1 image and have the install disk burned. Real soon
>now.
>
>
>    Not griping at all just the state of my art.

Moving over to Linux isn't something that should be done lightly, though for 
me it's been a great learning experience, and I wouldn't go back Microsoft.

Matt it sounds like a hardware problem, IDE controler or even the fan cutting 
out and causing the machine to do all sorts of things that it wouldn't normally 
do, or something of that nature. 

-- 
Cheers
Steve              email mailto:sjl### [at] ndirectcouk

%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: SV: Why povray?
Date: 18 Feb 2000 17:49:46
Message: <D8mtOJXr6CSZt84vOvEI9ehZekGP@4ax.com>
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:54:07 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>You guys sure you know how to run a computer ?

Ever changed an IP, tweaked your AGP, changed the MTU, installed and
configured a firewall...? The default options in Windows are so
alfully dreadfully moronically set up that a 50% decrease from optimal
performance should make you feel lucky. As an example, the default
configuration of my network card has the MTU screwed up and as a
result the maximum transer over my 100 Mbps lan was 7.1 K. Yes,
kilobytes! The AGP was automatically set to 1x, most of the functions
of the 3D accelerator were disabled... It was stable that way, but
now, more than 250 reboots later, performance has more than doubled.

>My current Win 98 session has been running 342 hr. 42 min. without
>a single reboot, GPF, or BSOD.

My old Win machine, K6/193, 32 RAM, 1.2 HDD, 2 MB S3 ViRGE suffered
from two or three freezings or BSODs a day, not counting GPFs and app
freezings which didn't take the system down. The *exact same box* has
been running Linux for over a month now and has only been rebooted to
add hardware (physically, because changing the default network card or
installing/uninstalling "drivers" for existing hardware do not need a
reboot).

I *know* how to use a computer but Windows does not. 


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700


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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: SV: Why povray?
Date: 20 Feb 2000 10:39:28
Message: <38b00ab0@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: My current Win 98 session has been running 342 hr. 42 min. without
: a single reboot, GPF, or BSOD.

: You guys sure you know how to run a computer ?

  Get a TV-card, run the tv program, open a dos-window and make it fullscreen.
Win98 will hang so badly that only turning off the computer and turning it
on again will help (even the reset button will not help).
  I sometimes forget this and it happens every time.

-- 
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From: Markus Becker
Subject: Re: SV: Why povray?
Date: 21 Feb 2000 07:18:22
Message: <38B12D66.E318E1A8@student.uni-siegen.de>
Peter Popov wrote:
> 
> In the past 100 hours, 242 reboots...
>                            ...and counting...

Why don't you folks use Windows NT, as I do?
Machine: Dual Pentium 200 MMX, 96MB RAM,
current uptime: 1738,5 hours. Yes, that's
two and a half months.

Markus


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