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Eitan Tal wrote:
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> don't fight! piratisim is really lame, but when it comes to
> bill gates... we must do all we can to kill him!
But if you copy Micros~1 software, you're suggesting that it's actually
worth using! I wouldn't want to give anyone that impression. The best
way to move Bill Gates into a cardboard box in a back alley in Redmond
is to demonstrate that you wouldn't use his software even if it were
free.
Of course, I may be biased. ;-)
--
Mark Gordon
mtg### [at] povray org
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Remco de Korte wrote in message <378B0568.BD788A8E@xs4all.nl>...
>Why here?
>
>Remco
>http://www.xs4all.nl/~remcodek/
>
>PS: I tried out several modellers but still feel the POV-editor is the best
way
>for me to tweak, twist and turn a scene.
>
seems like this tree (mine) is the biggest one ever in this history..
you probably all like this question...
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Eitan Tal wrote:
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>
> seems like this tree (mine) is the biggest one ever in this history..
Don't flatter yourself. In this group there's also a rather long thread about
interesting threads.
> you probably all like this question...
Looking at the reactions you might be mistaken here.
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Mark Gordon wrote in message <378C275E.6997DC2B@mailbag.com>...
>Eitan Tal wrote:
>>
>> don't fight! piratisim is really lame, but when it comes to
>> bill gates... we must do all we can to kill him!
>
>But if you copy Micros~1 software, you're suggesting that it's actually
>worth using! I wouldn't want to give anyone that impression. The best
>way to move Bill Gates into a cardboard box in a back alley in Redmond
>is to demonstrate that you wouldn't use his software even if it were
>free.
There's no avoiding him/them/it though (my Mac at home was MS free, then
I installed a couple of animation plug-ins (pulse and one other, name
escapes me atm) and suddenly I have F*&^ing MS extensions all through my
machine again.
With the ensuing stability drop.
>Of course, I may be biased. ;-)
Or simply right-thinking :-)
Have Fun
Martin
--
<Spa### [at] tesseractcomau> is a valid address
If you prefer mnemonic addresses you can use:
<Martin 'at' tesseract.com.au> or <Martin.Crisp 'at' Tourism.tas.gov.au>
My opinions should not be taken as indicative of Tourism Tasmania's
opinions
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On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:15:28 +1000, "Martin Crisp"
<Spa### [at] tesseractcomau> wrote:
>There's no avoiding him/them/it though (my Mac at home was MS free, then
>I installed a couple of animation plug-ins (pulse and one other, name
>escapes me atm) and suddenly I have F*&^ing MS extensions all through my
>machine again.
>
>With the ensuing stability drop.
Remove the plug-ins. Most are not anything great, anyway. Take Shockwave,
for instance. Nice eye candy but doesn't do much, IMO.
You *can* avoid using Microsoft-based software, if that's your goal. Get a
Linux box.
--
Alan
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On Tue, 13 Jul 1999 19:37:54 +0300, "Eitan Tal" <eit### [at] netvisionnetil>
wrote:
>don't fight! piratisim is really lame, but when it comes to
>bill gates... we must do all we can to kill him!
You might devote your energy into something more constructive than
promoting software piracy, Eitan.
Piracy is stealing, plain and simple. If someone we know gives us a copy
of software that is for another end-user then we both become thieves. Resist
the temptation to do so. Don't use the excuse that you are battling
Microsoft because that's no reason at all for stealing.
Piracy achieves one goal - it makes legitimate software buyers like the
rest of us, pay more for the software in the long run. We end up subsidizing
those who steal.
--
Alan
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Nieminen Mika wrote:
>
> Eitan Tal <eit### [at] netvisionnetil> wrote:
> : I can get a pirate copy
>
> Piratism is lame.
Not as lame as capitalism's treatment of data. *_*
-Xplo
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I agree.... I hate pirates!
I am a software develope myself... (simple databases for accounting
purposes....and also play around with POVray in my spare time..dreaming to
be a great POVray artist one day)..... and I wouldn't like pirates take all
the loot for the hard earned work I did. Which is why I would never pirate
someone elses programs!
Same thing with Gates. Love him or Hate him.. Bill Gates is a better
marketeer.
I have WIN95 on my system at home... (preinstalled in the HP system I
bought)... and that is only only MS system you'll find there. I downloaded
STarOffice which is free... and use POVray a lot. My company had developed a
2D image viewer (as part of a larger bundle) which I use often. And I use
Netscape at home.. which fortunately is free also. And I use MS-Netmeeting a
lot to talk with my cousins who are in different part of the world. I also
have sPatch and I have registered my copy of WinZIP (very usefull at home).
And for games... I have only purchased MS Flight SIm 98... costed me BD 25
(USD 75 something)
If you hate Bill Gates... don't use his software. Not that I like him.. but
I do respect him. And Linux still has a lot to go thru before it can take
over MS WIndows.
If you don't wanna pay much... I am sure there are many freeware/shareware
programs out there. I will be registering for Moray soon (once I find time
to download it) and IF in the near future POVray developers ask for funds or
something... I'll probably pay them (even if it is a little)... since povray
has brought a lot of pleasure to me.
I am not rich to spend BD 10,000 (USD 4000) on 3D Studio Max (on something I
probable will never master - so I'll never buy it, pirate it or even try to
use it - untill they make one version freeware or shareware for a few 10s of
dollars).... And I would probably never even master POVray... but I do like
it because it is fun...raytracing.. changing the scene a bit...raytracing
again...changing a bit...raytracing again....
Well, Just because Povray is free it doesn't mean we should become pirates.
Has anyone spend time to read the "Disclaimer Note" when you run Povray for
Windows? I honestly haven't but I sure will and stick by those rules so that
POVray remains free for ever.
BR/Saadat Saeed
Martin Crisp <Spa### [at] tesseractcomau> wrote in message
news:378bf714@news.povray.org...
> Nieminen Mika wrote in message <378b236c@news.povray.org>...
> >Eitan Tal <eit### [at] netvisionnetil> wrote:
> >: I can get a pirate copy
> >
> > Piratism is lame.
>
> Not according to Software Pirates Anonymous:
> http://www.spa.org/
>
> Have a look...
>
> Have Fun
> Martin
> --
> <Spa### [at] tesseractcomau> is a valid address
> If you prefer mnemonic addresses you can use:
> <Martin 'at' tesseract.com.au> or <Martin.Crisp 'at' Tourism.tas.gov.au>
>
> My opinions should not be taken as indicative of Tourism Tasmania's
> opinions
>
>
>
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Three cheers for Saadat!
Personally I just like to keep my distance from pirating. I buy the
things I can, when I can, and just not worry about it.
Bob
Saadat Saeed <saa### [at] batelcocombh> wrote in message
news:37db43f2@news.povray.org...
> I agree.... I hate pirates!
>
> I am a software develope myself... (simple databases for accounting
> purposes....and also play around with POVray in my spare
time..dreaming to
> be a great POVray artist one day)..... and I wouldn't like pirates
take all
> the loot for the hard earned work I did. Which is why I would never
pirate
> someone elses programs!
>
> Same thing with Gates. Love him or Hate him.. Bill Gates is a better
> marketeer.
>
> I have WIN95 on my system at home... (preinstalled in the HP system
I
> bought)... and that is only only MS system you'll find there. I
downloaded
> STarOffice which is free... and use POVray a lot. My company had
developed a
> 2D image viewer (as part of a larger bundle) which I use often. And
I use
> Netscape at home.. which fortunately is free also. And I use
MS-Netmeeting a
> lot to talk with my cousins who are in different part of the world.
I also
> have sPatch and I have registered my copy of WinZIP (very usefull at
home).
> And for games... I have only purchased MS Flight SIm 98... costed me
BD 25
> (USD 75 something)
>
> If you hate Bill Gates... don't use his software. Not that I like
him.. but
> I do respect him. And Linux still has a lot to go thru before it can
take
> over MS WIndows.
>
> If you don't wanna pay much... I am sure there are many
freeware/shareware
> programs out there. I will be registering for Moray soon (once I
find time
> to download it) and IF in the near future POVray developers ask for
funds or
> something... I'll probably pay them (even if it is a little)...
since povray
> has brought a lot of pleasure to me.
>
> I am not rich to spend BD 10,000 (USD 4000) on 3D Studio Max (on
something I
> probable will never master - so I'll never buy it, pirate it or even
try to
> use it - untill they make one version freeware or shareware for a
few 10s of
> dollars).... And I would probably never even master POVray... but I
do like
> it because it is fun...raytracing.. changing the scene a
bit...raytracing
> again...changing a bit...raytracing again....
>
> Well, Just because Povray is free it doesn't mean we should become
pirates.
> Has anyone spend time to read the "Disclaimer Note" when you run
Povray for
> Windows? I honestly haven't but I sure will and stick by those rules
so that
> POVray remains free for ever.
>
> BR/Saadat Saeed
>
>
>
> Martin Crisp <Spa### [at] tesseractcomau> wrote in message
> news:378bf714@news.povray.org...
> > Nieminen Mika wrote in message <378b236c@news.povray.org>...
> > >Eitan Tal <eit### [at] netvisionnetil> wrote:
> > >: I can get a pirate copy
> > >
> > > Piratism is lame.
> >
> > Not according to Software Pirates Anonymous:
> > http://www.spa.org/
> >
> > Have a look...
> >
> > Have Fun
> > Martin
> > --
> > <Spa### [at] tesseractcomau> is a valid address
> > If you prefer mnemonic addresses you can use:
> > <Martin 'at' tesseract.com.au> or <Martin.Crisp 'at'
Tourism.tas.gov.au>
> >
> > My opinions should not be taken as indicative of Tourism
Tasmania's
> > opinions
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Remco de Korte <rem### [at] xs4allnl> wrote in message
news:378C6D2D.3FE419A6@xs4all.nl...
> Looking at the reactions you might be mistaken here.
And it's possible that Eitan might have meant something else. To me, it
didn't look like he was trying to say that HE pirated it, just kinda set up
a scenario. I could be wrong, though.
-Ian
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