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From: Charles Albrecht
Subject: 3.5.1 PRC 1 (0181) not launching on 10.2.4
Date: 5 Mar 2003 18:36:17
Message: <charlesa-00CF6F.16361705032003@netplex.aussie.org>
I downloaded the new POV-Ray 3.5.1 Public Release Candidate 1 (build 
0181), but it won't finish launching. I've sent in a bug report, but I 
thought I'd ask here in case anyone had a workaround that would allow 
build 181 to finish launching.

At the end of the launch proceses as it beings to load the POVMSLib 
(Initializing POV-Ray Library), POV-Ray produces a dialog which claims:

  This install of POV-Ray is incomplete or damaged. You have to
  reinstall POV-Ray.

  Some files required to run POV-Ray are missing. You should not 
  move or remove parts inside the POV-Ray folder.

Which, clearly, I haven't - it being a fresh download and all.

This behavior occurs whether I double click the alias or the application 
itself. And it occurs whether I drag a file to the alias/application 
icon or double click a file that's been associated to POV-Ray.

At first blush, I would assume that there is a problem with the 
download, but since I haven't seen any reports here of problems with the 
download, it seems more likely that the issue is mine.

And yet there is altogether nothing particular odd about my installation 
(with Dec 2003 Dev Tools) other than the fact I have /Users mounted on a 
different volume than /. I can't imagine that would make much difference 
in the launch process when compared to the released 3.5 build 0173.

Launching in Classic leads directly to a crash without any error dialog 
as it finishes (appearances only - it's at about the same point in the 
process that, from using 3.5 the last few weeks, I'd expect POV-Ray to 
dismiss the splash screen) initializing the POV-Ray Library.

Any suggestions?

-Charles
 Euonymic Soltuions


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From: Martin Crisp
Subject: Re: 3.5.1 PRC 1 (0181) not launching on 10.2.4
Date: 5 Mar 2003 21:55:02
Message: <web.3e66b7d8ac5b620e50812eff0@news.povray.org>
Charles Albrecht wrote:
>I downloaded the new POV-Ray 3.5.1 Public Release Candidate 1 (build
>0181), but it won't finish launching. I've sent in a bug report, but I
>thought I'd ask here in case anyone had a workaround that would allow
>build 181 to finish launching.
>
>At the end of the launch proceses as it beings to load the POVMSLib
>(Initializing POV-Ray Library), POV-Ray produces a dialog which claims:
>
>  This install of POV-Ray is incomplete or damaged. You have to
>  reinstall POV-Ray.
>
>  Some files required to run POV-Ray are missing. You should not
>  move or remove parts inside the POV-Ray folder.
>
>Which, clearly, I haven't - it being a fresh download and all.

[snip]

>And yet there is altogether nothing particular odd about my installation
>(with Dec 2003 Dev Tools) other than the fact I have /Users mounted on a

I think you're a little ahead of the rest of us on that score ;-)

>different volume than /. I can't imagine that would make much difference
>in the launch process when compared to the released 3.5 build 0173.

delete POV-Ray's preferences from ~/Library/Preferences/

[This fixed the same problem for me...]

>Launching in Classic leads directly to a crash without any error dialog

No suggestion for that, as I haven't had much time for POV-Ray of late, and
even less for classic...

[snip]

Have Fun
Martin


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From: Charles Albrecht
Subject: Re: 3.5.1 PRC 1 (0181) not launching on 10.2.4
Date: 6 Mar 2003 01:41:10
Message: <charlesa-7FF5C5.23411005032003@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <web.3e66b7d8ac5b620e50812eff0@news.povray.org>,
 "Martin Crisp" <spa### [at] tesseractcomau> wrote:

>Charles Albrecht wrote:
>>
>>At the end of the launch proceses as it beings to load the POVMSLib
>>(Initializing POV-Ray Library), POV-Ray produces a dialog which claims:
>>
>>  This install of POV-Ray is incomplete or damaged. You have to
>>  reinstall POV-Ray.
>>
>>  Some files required to run POV-Ray are missing. You should not
>>  move or remove parts inside the POV-Ray folder.
>>
>>Which, clearly, I haven't - it being a fresh download and all.
>
>delete POV-Ray's preferences from ~/Library/Preferences/
>
>[This fixed the same problem for me...]

No luck on this end. It does, however, seem to get just a little bit 
further into the "Initializing POV-Ray Library" process before 
displaying the alert briefly and then crashing with:

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0xf02afba0

Thread 0 Crashed:
 #0   0x902b7e38 in _MP_RemoteCallback
 #1   0x901632f0 in __CFRunLoopDoTimer
 #2   0x90148e48 in __CFRunLoopRun
 #3   0x90180fe4 in CFRunLoopRunSpecific
 #4   0x969a3160 in RunCurrentEventLoopInMode
 #5   0x969a37e4 in GetNextEventMatchingMask
 #6   0x969a7664 in WNEInternal
 #7   0x969ad528 in WaitNextEvent
 #8   0x96a23edc in ModalDialog
 #9   0x96ad5328 in RunStandardAlert
 #10  0x96b20f50 in StandardAlert
 #11  0x0025162c in SimpleStandardAlert(short, unsigned char *, unsigned 
char *)
 #12  0x001a3e4c in main

Which seems - on the whole - unrelated to the "something seems out of 
place with your install," error.


>>(with Dec 2003 Dev Tools) other than the fact I have /Users mounted on a
>
>I think you're a little ahead of the rest of us on that score ;-)

Heh. Just when you get used to typing one year, it turns out to be the 
wrong one. :)

-C


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From: Martin Crisp
Subject: Re: 3.5.1 PRC 1 (0181) not launching on 10.2.4
Date: 6 Mar 2003 03:42:36
Message: <0001HW.BA8D552F00699037F0305600@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:41:10 +1100, Charles Albrecht wrote
(in message <cha### [at] netplexaussieorg>):

> In article <web.3e66b7d8ac5b620e50812eff0@news.povray.org>,
>  "Martin Crisp" <spa### [at] tesseractcomau> wrote:
> 
>> Charles Albrecht wrote:

[...]

>>> Which, clearly, I haven't - it being a fresh download and all.
>> 
>> delete POV-Ray's preferences from ~/Library/Preferences/

<worried I should have been more explicit>
I meant the /Library/Preferences/ in your home directory.


>> [This fixed the same problem for me...]
> 
> No luck on this end. It does, however, seem to get just a little bit 
> further into the "Initializing POV-Ray Library" process before 
> displaying the alert briefly and then crashing with:
> 
> Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
> Codes:      KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0xf02afba0

eeek! Sorry, can't help you there.
[snip]

> 
> Which seems - on the whole - unrelated to the "something seems out of 
> place with your install," error.

Now you have me worried my brevity has killed your install more :-(


>>> (with Dec 2003 Dev Tools) other than the fact I have /Users mounted on a
>> 
>> I think you're a little ahead of the rest of us on that score ;-)
> 
> Heh. Just when you get used to typing one year, it turns out to be the 
> wrong one. :)

That's how I feel about the movement for 'connect' for my dialup in 
the OS 9 -> X shift. 

Have Fun
Martin
-- 
Kinky:
What I do that you wouldn't
Perverted:
What you do that I wouldn't

Almost always SMASHed


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: 3.5.1 PRC 1 (0181) not launching on 10.2.4
Date: 6 Mar 2003 16:30:13
Message: <3e67bde5$1@news.povray.org>
In article <cha### [at] netplexaussieorg> , Charles 
Albrecht <cha### [at] poboxcom>  wrote:

> I downloaded the new POV-Ray 3.5.1 Public Release Candidate 1 (build
> 0181), but it won't finish launching. I've sent in a bug report, but I
> thought I'd ask here in case anyone had a workaround that would allow
> build 181 to finish launching.

Do you have Mac with a G3 or G4?

    Thorsten

____________________________________________________
Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
e-mail: tho### [at] trfde

Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org


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From: Charles Albrecht
Subject: Re: 3.5.1 PRC 1 (0181) not launching on 10.2.4
Date: 7 Mar 2003 13:07:23
Message: <charlesa-46F8A8.11072307032003@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <3e67bde5$1@news.povray.org>,
 "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:

> In article <cha### [at] netplexaussieorg> , Charles 
> Albrecht <cha### [at] poboxcom>  wrote:
> 
> > I downloaded the new POV-Ray 3.5.1 Public Release Candidate 1 (build
> > 0181), but it won't finish launching. I've sent in a bug report, but I
> > thought I'd ask here in case anyone had a workaround that would allow
> > build 181 to finish launching.
> 
> Do you have Mac with a G3 or G4?

Wallstreet (1998, Rev 2 aka PDQ) PowerBook G3/300.

-C


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: 3.5.1 PRC 1 (0181) not launching on 10.2.4
Date: 7 Mar 2003 13:26:45
Message: <3e68e465$1@news.povray.org>
In article <cha### [at] netplexaussieorg> , Charles 
Albrecht <cha### [at] po-remove-boxcom>  wrote:

> Wallstreet (1998, Rev 2 aka PDQ) PowerBook G3/300.

OK, yes, that explains it.  I only got a few complaints about this problem
and I now know the common cause:  There is indeed a little problem with
non-G4 version of the render engine  which expects a different version of
POVMSLib.  However, the version it expects wouldn't be compatible with the
frontend application ... I changed the website yesterday already.

If you want you can try to replace your "POV-Ray Lib" file with the one
included in the archive at <http://mac.povray.org/download/351g3.sit> (about
650 KB).  However, I cannot yet promise you that it does really work.

    Thorsten

____________________________________________________
Thorsten Froehlich
e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg

I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org


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From: Charles Albrecht
Subject: Re: 3.5.1 PRC 1 (0181) not launching on 10.2.4
Date: 7 Mar 2003 14:17:18
Message: <charlesa-439A9C.12171707032003@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <3e68e465$1@news.povray.org>,
 "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
>
>OK, yes, that explains it.  I only got a few complaints about this problem
>and I now know the common cause:  There is indeed a little problem with
>non-G4 version of the render engine  which expects a different version of
>POVMSLib.  However, the version it expects wouldn't be compatible with the
>frontend application ... I changed the website yesterday already.

I see that now, "Note that a Mac with a G4 class processor is required 
to run this release candidate!"

>If you want you can try to replace your "POV-Ray Lib" file with the one
>included in the archive at <http://mac.povray.org/download/351g3.sit> (about
>650 KB).  However, I cannot yet promise you that it does really work.

I'll give it a try and see how it works out.

-Charles


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From: Charles Albrecht
Subject: Re: 3.5.1 PRC 1 (0181) not launching on 10.2.4
Date: 7 Mar 2003 20:37:26
Message: <charlesa-BA04C3.18372507032003@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <3e68e465$1@news.povray.org>,
 "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
>
>If you want you can try to replace your "POV-Ray Lib" file with the one
>included in the archive at <http://mac.povray.org/download/351g3.sit> (about
>650 KB).  However, I cannot yet promise you that it does really work.

Same behavior with that Lib file. That stands to reason, though, because 
it appears to be identical to the file included in the 3.5.1 RC1 
download.

-Charles


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From: Charles Albrecht
Subject: Re: 3.5.1 PRC 1 (0181) not launching on 10.2.4
Date: 10 Mar 2003 14:34:14
Message: <charlesa-67D931.12341410032003@netplex.aussie.org>
> Same behavior with that Lib file. That stands to reason, though, because 
> it appears to be identical to the file included in the 3.5.1 RC1 
> download.

So, for now, I'll stick with 3.5 0173.


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