how do the templates work in
3.5...??? i see no template
menu...???

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In article <3BCEFD51.641C7720@earthlink.net> , Ryan Mooney 
<rdm### [at] earthlinknet>  wrote:

> how do the templates work in 3.5...???

New format, old one can be imported but the feature is not complete as of
beta 6.

> i see no template menu...???

No, right now the menu code isn't ready.  Probably will be in beta 7 or 8.

HOWEVER, as for seeing the templates right now, you will need Mac OS 8.6 or
later with CarbonLib 1.3.1 or later (CarbonLib 1.4 or newer strongly
recommended).  Then you should see a "template window" entry in the Window
menu.  On the other hand, the Window menu in beta 6 has problems, so if you
didn't open it in beta 4, with the Window menu possibly not functioning at
all in beta 6 you might not be able to open it at all :-(


    Thorsten


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So 3.5 is basically FAR from finished...??
In the future will i need 8.6 or higher in order for the features to fully
work...??
And last... Thank you, its much eider to ask questions than go sifting through
info to find an answer... =]

Thorsten Froehlich wrote:

> In article <3BCEFD51.641C7720@earthlink.net> , Ryan Mooney
> <rdm### [at] earthlinknet>  wrote:
>
> > how do the templates work in 3.5...???
>
> New format, old one can be imported but the feature is not complete as of
> beta 6.
>
> > i see no template menu...???
>
> No, right now the menu code isn't ready.  Probably will be in beta 7 or 8.
>
> HOWEVER, as for seeing the templates right now, you will need Mac OS 8.6 or
> later with CarbonLib 1.3.1 or later (CarbonLib 1.4 or newer strongly
> recommended).  Then you should see a "template window" entry in the Window
> menu.  On the other hand, the Window menu in beta 6 has problems, so if you
> didn't open it in beta 4, with the Window menu possibly not functioning at
> all in beta 6 you might not be able to open it at all :-(
>
>     Thorsten
>
> ____________________________________________________
> Thorsten Froehlich
> e-mail: mac### [at] povrayorg
>
> I am a member of the POV-Ray Team.
> Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org

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In article <3BD9ABC2.991D62F7@earthlink.net> , Ryan Mooney 
<rdm### [at] earthlinknet>  wrote:

> So 3.5 is basically FAR from finished...??

No, I am waiting for the release of CarbonLib 1.5 which fixes many bugs in
the DataBrowser* control.  Right now I constantly have to work around those
bugs for Apple and it makes finishing the template window a bit difficult
and tedious :-(

> In the future will i need 8.6 or higher in order for the features to fully
> work...??

Yes and no.  The template menu will be there, but you will not be able to
edit it (or seeing the template window) in Mac OS 8.1.  As 8.6 is a free
update to 8.5 and 8.5 itself is nearly three years old it isn't that bad
considering the resources you need for a ray tracer in the first place.  As
with 8.1 and 8.6 absolutely every Power Macintosh is supported it is really
only a minor limitation that makes developing of a Carbon version much
easier.  And POV-Ray 4.0 will surely require Mac OS 9.1 or 9.21...

Back to 3.5, all features except the template window will be available in
Mac OS 8.1 because the template window uses the DataBrowser control which is
not available in CarbonLib 1.0.x but only in CarbonLib 1.1 or later which in
turn simply requires Mac OS 8.6 or later :-(

    Thorsten

* The DataBrowser control is an Apple supplied control just like buttons and
check boxes.  It allows developers to easily create complex browsers like
the Finder list view or the Mac OS X Finder NextStep like view.


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