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From: Kenneth
Subject: 'Search' results problem
Date: 13 Dec 2017 03:10:00
Message: <web.5a309935d77a99489df8d30@news.povray.org>
Just noticed something abnormal when attempting to do a 'search' for a topic in
the newsgroups (I'm on Windows 7 with the latest update to Firefox).

The search results are limited to a few advertisements (nothing POV-ray-related
at all), along with this warning:

"Unauthorized access to internal API. Please refer to
https://support.google.com/customsearch/answer/4542055"

I haven't seen that before.


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From: Fractracer
Subject: Re: 'Search' results problem
Date: 13 Dec 2017 11:20:00
Message: <web.5a310cb99fc0368abe1e6c2b0@news.povray.org>
"Kenneth" <kdw### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Just noticed something abnormal when attempting to do a 'search' for a topic in
> the newsgroups (I'm on Windows 7 with the latest update to Firefox).
>
> The search results are limited to a few advertisements (nothing POV-ray-related
> at all), along with this warning:
>
> "Unauthorized access to internal API. Please refer to
> https://support.google.com/customsearch/answer/4542055"
>
> I haven't seen that before.

I have tried with Chrome, Firefox, and on PS4, the search don't work.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: 'Search' results problem
Date: 13 Dec 2017 12:08:38
Message: <5a311846$1@news.povray.org>
On 13-12-2017 12:19, Fractracer wrote:
> "Kenneth" <kdw### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Just noticed something abnormal when attempting to do a 'search' for a topic in
>> the newsgroups (I'm on Windows 7 with the latest update to Firefox).
>>
>> The search results are limited to a few advertisements (nothing POV-ray-related
>> at all), along with this warning:
>>
>> "Unauthorized access to internal API. Please refer to
>> https://support.google.com/customsearch/answer/4542055"
>>
>> I haven't seen that before.
> 
> I have tried with Chrome, Firefox, and on PS4, the search don't work.
> 
> 

I think the search option has been broken for quite some time. I 
remember trying it  months ago and it didn't work. I have some extremely 
dim recollection about it being disabled for spam reasons? Or was that 
the Objects Collection?

-- 
Thomas


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From: Bald Eagle
Subject: Re: 'Search' results problem
Date: 13 Dec 2017 13:10:00
Message: <web.5a3125ae9fc0368ac437ac910@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:

> I think the search option has been broken for quite some time. I
> remember trying it  months ago and it didn't work. I have some extremely
> dim recollection about it being disabled for spam reasons? Or was that
> the Objects Collection?
>
> --
> Thomas

I have frequently used Search in the recent past to find threads and specific
postings, and it seemed to work as well as it ever did.   Must be a recent
thing.

IIRC there was an Object Collection feature that had been disabled, so that must
be it.


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: 'Search' results problem
Date: 24 Dec 2017 14:50:01
Message: <web.5a3fbcdd9fc0368a89df8d30@news.povray.org>
It's still not working.  :-( :-(

I suspect that the problem-- of interfacing with Google's
changed(?)custom-search API-- is not an easy one to fix.

Any new info to report?


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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: Re: 'Search' results problem
Date: 27 Dec 2017 15:10:49
Message: <5a43b7f9$1@news.povray.org>
On 12/24/2017 09:48 AM, Kenneth wrote:
> It's still not working.  :-( :-(
> 
> I suspect that the problem-- of interfacing with Google's
> changed(?)custom-search API-- is not an easy one to fix.
> 
> Any new info to report?
> 
> 
> 
I'm not aware of anything myself.

If you've not found your way there, you can make use of Google's 
advanced search - limiting the search to the site or domain of 
news.povray.org or povray.org. See:

https://www.google.com/advanced_search

Aside: I've found the Google time search filters somewhat flaky. 
Especially as compared to time based searches in Thunderbird for 
example. In other words, don't be quick to limit searches to the last 
week or month with the Google as you'll likely not see many results 
which 'should-by-date' be present.

Bill P.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: 'Search' results problem
Date: 28 Dec 2017 08:03:35
Message: <5a44a557$1@news.povray.org>
On 27-12-2017 16:10, William F Pokorny wrote:
> On 12/24/2017 09:48 AM, Kenneth wrote:
>> It's still not working.  :-( :-(
>>
>> I suspect that the problem-- of interfacing with Google's
>> changed(?)custom-search API-- is not an easy one to fix.
>>
>> Any new info to report?
>>
>>
>>
> I'm not aware of anything myself.

It is still not working for me either. The Search field says: "Loading", 
and that is the end of the story. I have been wondering if the feature 
might not be blocked by the virus scanner/internet security facility, or 
one of the anti-spam apps I am using on Firefox, I am using...

> 
> If you've not found your way there, you can make use of Google's 
> advanced search - limiting the search to the site or domain of 
> news.povray.org or povray.org. See:
> 
> https://www.google.com/advanced_search
> 
> Aside: I've found the Google time search filters somewhat flaky. 
> Especially as compared to time based searches in Thunderbird for 
> example. In other words, don't be quick to limit searches to the last 
> week or month with the Google as you'll likely not see many results 
> which 'should-by-date' be present.
> 
> Bill P.


-- 
Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: 'Search' results problem
Date: 28 Dec 2017 08:17:38
Message: <5a44a8a2$1@news.povray.org>
On 28/12/2017 08:03, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> On 27-12-2017 16:10, William F Pokorny wrote:
>> On 12/24/2017 09:48 AM, Kenneth wrote:
>>> It's still not working.  :-( :-(
>>>
>>> I suspect that the problem-- of interfacing with Google's
>>> changed(?)custom-search API-- is not an easy one to fix.
>>>
>>> Any new info to report?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I'm not aware of anything myself.
> 
> It is still not working for me either. The Search field says: "Loading", 
> and that is the end of the story. I have been wondering if the feature 
> might not be blocked by the virus scanner/internet security facility, or 
> one of the anti-spam apps I am using on Firefox, I am using...
> 
>>

I get
Unauthorized access to internal API. Please refer to 
https://support.google.com/customsearch/answer/4542055

Going to the said site:

This error is an indication of trying to directly access the Custom 
Search Engineâs internal API (âv1elementâ). Please use the code snippet 
found in your CSE control panel. Learn more about Custom Search Element 
V2 setup.
For programmatic access use the public CSE JSON API.


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: 'Search' results problem
Date: 29 Dec 2017 19:20:01
Message: <web.5a46945f9fc0368a89df8d30@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:

>
> Going to the said site:
>
> This error is an indication of trying to directly access the Custom
> Search Engineâs internal API (âv1elementâ). Please use the code snippet
> found in your CSE control panel. Learn more about Custom Search Element
> V2 setup.
> For programmatic access use the public CSE JSON API.
>

*Sounds* like a relatively simple fix, but I wonder.

There's a deafening silence from the POV-Ray developers so far ;-)  Maybe Google
wants to charge money now for what used to be a free(?) service (?)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: 'Search' results problem
Date: 29 Dec 2017 19:54:42
Message: <5a469d82$1@news.povray.org>
On 29/12/2017 19:15, Kenneth wrote:
> Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Going to the said site:
>>
>> This error is an indication of trying to directly access the Custom
>> Search Engineââ¬â¢s internal API (ââ¬Ëv1elementââ¬â¢). Please use the code
snippet
>> found in your CSE control panel. Learn more about Custom Search Element
>> V2 setup.
>> For programmatic access use the public CSE JSON API.
>>
> 
> *Sounds* like a relatively simple fix, but I wonder.
> 

It's beyond my ken. :-)

> There's a deafening silence from the POV-Ray developers so far ;-)  Maybe Google
> wants to charge money now for what used to be a free(?) service (?)
> 
> 
> 
It doesn't seem as if anyone has taken over responsibility for the 
website since Uncle Ken left.


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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