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From: jhu
Subject: Intel's Knights Landing is coming
Date: 28 Jun 2014 10:50:00
Message: <web.53aed5f63d04fb52d19b0ec40@news.povray.org>
72 OoO cores, 4 threads/core (compared with current Xeon Phi's in order cores).
It'll even come as a regular socketed CPU (as well as PCIe addin card). Was
originally thinking about getting the 8-core Haswell-E. But now I might wait for
this instead!


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Intel's Knights Landing is coming
Date: 28 Jun 2014 12:06:36
Message: <53aee80c@news.povray.org>
Le 28/06/2014 16:49, jhu nous fit lire :
> 72 OoO cores, 4 threads/core (compared with current Xeon Phi's in order cores).
> It'll even come as a regular socketed CPU (as well as PCIe addin card). Was
> originally thinking about getting the 8-core Haswell-E. But now I might wait for
> this instead!
> 
> 
The Haswell-E 8 core is a global 48GHz beast (at 3 GHz per core,
assuming HT is valuable as 1 core (my experience is rather 0,23 )), for
Q3/Q4 2014... at the usual $1000 price, usable on classical motherboard.
(well, rumors say that DDR4 is mandatory)


The Knight Landing... well, it's for later (best hope Q1 2015), and no
news yet about the socket, or the price.



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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Intel's Knights Landing is coming
Date: 28 Jun 2014 16:23:37
Message: <op.xh6llhktufxv4h@xena.home>
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:49:26 +0200, jhu <nomail@nomail> wrote:

> 72 OoO cores, 4 threads/core (compared with current Xeon Phi's in order  
> cores).
> It'll even come as a regular socketed CPU (as well as PCIe addin card).  
> Was
> originally thinking about getting the 8-core Haswell-E. But now I might  
> wait for
> this instead!
>

+rtr on benchmark =)

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From: jhu
Subject: Re: Intel's Knights Landing is coming
Date: 28 Jun 2014 19:20:00
Message: <web.53af4d4e1ada028ad19b0ec40@news.povray.org>
Le_Forgeron <jgr### [at] freefr> wrote:

> >
> The Haswell-E 8 core is a global 48GHz beast (at 3 GHz per core,
> assuming HT is valuable as 1 core (my experience is rather 0,23 )), for
> Q3/Q4 2014... at the usual $1000 price, usable on classical motherboard.
> (well, rumors say that DDR4 is mandatory)

That's my experience as well (Intel HT = 0.22-0.25 real core). Now $1000 price +
$$$ motherboard + $$$ DDR4. Might be a good idea to get an 8-core Sandy
Bridge/Ivy Bridge for < $1000. (eg saw a Xeon E5-2687W 3.1 GHz going for $650).
>
>
> The Knight Landing... well, it's for later (best hope Q1 2015), and no
> news yet about the socket, or the price.
>

Waiting an extra quarter is fine. Price, on the other hand, hopefully won't be
too bad. Current Xeon Phis are anywhere from $800 to $1600 (ie don't pay more
than $1600 because the retailer is ripping you off beyond that).


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Intel's Knights Landing is coming
Date: 30 Jun 2014 09:44:03
Message: <53b169a2@news.povray.org>
jhu <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> 72 OoO cores

What does that mean?

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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Intel's Knights Landing is coming
Date: 30 Jun 2014 10:22:19
Message: <53b1729b$1@news.povray.org>
Le 30/06/2014 15:44, Warp a écrit :
> jhu <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>> 72 OoO cores
> 
> What does that mean?
> 
72 cores, with emoticon (something like "surprised", eyes wide opened,
bigger nose than ".")

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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Intel's Knights Landing is coming
Date: 30 Jun 2014 10:43:34
Message: <53b17796$1@news.povray.org>
Am 30.06.2014 16:22, schrieb Le_Forgeron:
> Le 30/06/2014 15:44, Warp a écrit :
>> jhu <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>>> 72 OoO cores
>>
>> What does that mean?
>>
> 72 cores, with emoticon (something like "surprised", eyes wide opened,
> bigger nose than ".")

Probably more like "72 out of order cores" (as indicated by the OP's 
subsequent phrase in parentheses, "compared with current Xeon Phi's in 
order cores").

I just wonder what the hell those 72 cores are useful for if they're all 
defunct :-P


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From: jhu
Subject: Re: Intel's Knights Landing is coming
Date: 30 Jun 2014 15:15:00
Message: <web.53b1b6181ada028abc7625b90@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 30.06.2014 16:22, schrieb Le_Forgeron:
> > Le 30/06/2014 15:44, Warp a écrit :
> >> jhu <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> >>> 72 OoO cores
> >>
> >> What does that mean?
> >>
> > 72 cores, with emoticon (something like "surprised", eyes wide opened,
> > bigger nose than ".")
>
> Probably more like "72 out of order cores" (as indicated by the OP's
> subsequent phrase in parentheses, "compared with current Xeon Phi's in
> order cores").
>
> I just wonder what the hell those 72 cores are useful for if they're all
> defunct :-P

Yes, out of order. Their based on Silvermont cores, so they'll have much faster
single-thread performance than the P5-based cores now. Up to 288 threads! Need
to increase Povray's thread limit yet?


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