"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
> a warning that nobody heard?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Shadow walks faster than you
> You don't really know what to do
> Do you think that you're not alone
> You really think that you're immune to
> Its gonna get the best of you
> Its gonna lift you up and let you down
> Hm hm hm
> It will defeat you then teach you to get back up
> After it takes away all that you learn to love
>
> Your reflection is a blur
> Out of focus but in confusion
> The frames are suddenly burnt
> And in the end of a roll of illusions
> A ghost waiting his turn
> Now I can see right through
> Its a warning that nobody heard
>
> It will teach you to love what you're afraid of
> After it takes away all that you learn to love
> But you don't
> Always
> Have to hold your head
> Higher than your heart
>


I prefer the quote

"What I hear, I forget."
"What I see, I remember."
"What I do, I understand."
-Confucius

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Thorsten Froehlich wrote:

 
> On the other hand, in how may open source projects has the following
> attitude ever worked: I am a developer new to your project. I saw you have
> a few open bugs. Here are small fixes for those bugs. Further, I have some
> suggestions for more substantial improvements, would you like to hear
> them?

Probably in most


> In how many open source projects will the following
> attitude ever work: I am new to the project, so first I tell the existing
> developers all they do wrong. Then I claim that I am the over-expert in
> some field, i.e. parallel programming, and hence when I come I expect all
> developers to drop everything they are doing to support my major changes
> to their program.

Probably in most, if the big changes where actually good, and are possible
to be applied gradually (I guess 3.6 -> 3.7 was a huge jump to add SMP at
all, but now as it works overall, some finetuning could be usefull
probably?)

> Just because we don't want contributors like those who contributed to the
> Debian OpenSSL "fix" does not mean we don't want contributors. But fact is

<debiancat> Im in your code, commenting out your functions

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Thorsten Froehlich wrote:

>> That only proves my point: the lack of welcome to contributions made
>> everyone go away.
> 
> ROFL
> 
> Thorsten

- open code!
- no
- you suck
- no, u!
- no, u!
[...]

- but we already said we will (re-)open the source (of 3.7)
- ok so lets do it
- lets

Can we move already to the end? =)

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Rafal wrote:
> Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> 
>>> That only proves my point: the lack of welcome to contributions made
>>> everyone go away.
>> ROFL
>>
>> Thorsten
> 
> - open code!
> - no

Something that never was closed cannot be opened.

	Thorsten

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Rafal wrote:
>> In how many open source projects will the following
>> attitude ever work: I am new to the project, so first I tell the existing
>> developers all they do wrong. Then I claim that I am the over-expert in
>> some field, i.e. parallel programming, and hence when I come I expect all
>> developers to drop everything they are doing to support my major changes
>> to their program.
> 
> Probably in most, if the big changes where actually good, and are possible
> to be applied gradually (I guess 3.6 -> 3.7 was a huge jump to add SMP at
> all, but now as it works overall, some finetuning could be usefull
> probably?)

Then try i.e. on the gcc mailing list. But I take no responsibility for your 
head! I suggest the ability to run fast... ;-)

	Thorsten

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