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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Short code competition number 4
Date: 28 Sep 2006 11:58:48
Message: <451bf138@news.povray.org>
Bill Pragnell <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> I was quite amused by the 'between 16 and 256 bytes'. Does this mean that if
> I create an 'artistic' scene comprising less than 16 bytes of SDL, it won't
> be considered for entry, or is there some technical reason for the lower
> limit? Sounds like a challenge to me! ;-)

  I think the reason is historical: In some earlier rounds an empty scene
(0 bytes) would have got an infinite score. Even a scene of 1 byte would
have got an enormous score if it got even one single vote.

  Of course in this round it doesn't matter, but I suppose it doesn't
hurt either.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Short code competition number 4
Date: 28 Sep 2006 11:59:45
Message: <451bf171@news.povray.org>
Mike the Elder <zer### [at] wyanorg> wrote:
> Even for those of us who learned to program on the ancient Commodore PET (8k
> RAM max) 256 bytes is a tad claustrophobic.  Sound like fun. Thanks.

  256 is luxury. The Atari 2600 had only 128 bytes of RAM. :P

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Short code competition number 4
Date: 28 Sep 2006 12:17:32
Message: <451bf59c@news.povray.org>
Paul Bourke <pau### [at] uwaeduau> wrote:
> > Perhaps it could be a good idea if the entry file could be submitted
> > as an attachment (or whatever it is called in webforms), like it is
> > possible in many webforms out there. This way we can be sure that you
> > are getting the file exactly as it was written and that nothing modifies
> > it along the way (by eg. adding a newline at the end of the file or
> > whatever).

> I'll ensure this doesn't happen.
> I already (last time) replaced any combinations of CR lf with a single
> space.
> I will also check end of lines.

  Given that the submission engine checks the length of the submission,
any extra characters added by the form sending procedure will confuse
it, especially if the submission is exactly 256 bytes long.
  Guess what just happened to me?-)

  I still think it would be a good idea if you could attach the file
to the webform, as you can in some sites. (I haven't studied how it
is done, but I bet it's not very hard.)

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From: Ross
Subject: Re: Short code competition number 4
Date: 28 Sep 2006 15:12:45
Message: <451c1ead@news.povray.org>
"Paul Bourke" <pau### [at] uwaeduau> wrote in message
news:web.4517c7f86007cae685a114a40@news.povray.org...
> Round four of the POVRay short code contest
>
> Not quite a full on announcement but close enough.
>
> Please point your browser here and make any suggestions, comments,
wording,
> etc.
>    http://local.wasp.uwa.edu.au/~pbourke/scc4/
>
> Very similar to the last one in 2004 except ...
> - Voting by entrants only

entrants only? Well I guess you could submit something stupid just to vote.


I must still be a newb. How do some of those scenes from past competitions
produce an image without a camera block?


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Short code competition number 4
Date: 28 Sep 2006 16:05:01
Message: <web.451c2ac9e7874c8716bbb810@news.povray.org>
"Ross" <rli### [at] speakeasynet> wrote:
> I must still be a newb. How do some of those scenes from past competitions
> produce an image without a camera block?

There is a default camera ;)
http://www.povray.org/documentation/view/3.6.1/245/


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From: Ross
Subject: Re: Short code competition number 4
Date: 28 Sep 2006 16:13:16
Message: <451c2cdc@news.povray.org>
"Nicolas Alvarez" <nic### [at] gmailrockscom> wrote in message
news:web.451c2ac9e7874c8716bbb810@news.povray.org...
> "Ross" <rli### [at] speakeasynet> wrote:
> > I must still be a newb. How do some of those scenes from past
competitions
> > produce an image without a camera block?
>
> There is a default camera ;)
> http://www.povray.org/documentation/view/3.6.1/245/
>
>

Ooooh yeah. I better grep the docs for default to see what I can use on the
cheap :)


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Short code competition number 4
Date: 28 Sep 2006 19:34:31
Message: <451c5c07@news.povray.org>
Paul Bourke wrote:
>>> Probably a stupid question, but.... we can submit more than one entry,  right?
>>   I hope so.
> 
> I have no problem with multiple entries as long as they are each distinctly
> different.
> On the other hand lets not go crazy .... lets say a maximum of 4 per person?
> Everyone happy with that?

Yeah, that sounds good.

~Sam


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From: Penelope20k
Subject: Re: Short code competition number 4
Date: 29 Sep 2006 08:16:17
Message: <451d0e91@news.povray.org>
may we send 3 codes under some condition as

Code_1 ... will only participate to gold medal
Code 2 for silver
Code 3 for short code ..

even if we send it in 3 times ?



news:web.451b6cc0e7874c8e5a039020@news.povray.org...
> > > Probably a stupid question, but.... we can submit more than one entry,
right?
> >   I hope so.
>
> I have no problem with multiple entries as long as they are each
distinctly
> different.
> On the other hand lets not go crazy .... lets say a maximum of 4 per
person?
> Everyone happy with that?
>
>


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From: Leroy
Subject: Re: Short code competition number 4
Date: 30 Sep 2006 01:38:46
Message: <451E01C4.80408@joplin.com>
Christoph Hormann wrote:
> One problem that might arise is that people could start using the code 
> of previous entries, modify it a bit and submit it as new.  In my scc3 
> submission you could for example simply change the colors and pattern 
> and have a differently looking but essentially very similar scene.  Due 
> to the small size this might not be easily recognizable for the voters 
> (because you could quite well get independently to very similar 256 
> character scenes).
> 
> The fact that the code will be visible makes this easier to deal with 
> but i still fear that during voting there could be extensive discussion 
> about whether some entries are based on older ones.
> 
> Christoph

  I'm thinking of entering for the first time.
How can I make sure I don't mistakingly do what you feared?


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From: StephenS
Subject: Re: Short code competition number 4
Date: 30 Sep 2006 20:08:31
Message: <451f06ff$1@news.povray.org>
...
> Please point your browser here and make any suggestions, comments, 
> wording,
> etc.
...
Is the name of the artist derived from the email address or should we 
include it in the comments? For after voting of course.

StephenS


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