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In article <slr### [at] skavara ese> , Antti Arola <aea### [at] ioboxfi>
wrote:
> Everyone, please stop whining about how the web, html
> specs and browsers are broken; they have been that way
> as long as they've existed and there will never be
> a change to that. It sucks, but there's nothing anyone
> can (or will) do about it - standard compliance or
> unambiguous specifications just don't thrive in the
> electronic world.
I liked HTML 2.0 + tables. It did everything it had to and it worked well.
In fact it still does.
Thorsten
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Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
e-mail: tho### [at] trfde
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org
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On 16 Jul 2002 16:08:29 -0400, Antti Arola wrote:
Antti Arola, edistyksenvastainen retropaskiainen
This message written by a complete asshole.
Your sig doesn't render in 3.5.
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"Chris Cason" <new### [at] deletethispovrayorg> wrote in message
news:3d345e3f@news.povray.org...
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> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3d3433e0@news.povray.org...
> > Could someone give me a (small) example where the reported misbehaviour
> > happens?
>
> I'll see if I can restore a copy of the page where this was happening.
http://www.povray.org/resources/newsgroups/old-oetut.html
For the effect to be visible, you need to have a style that applies an underline
(or whatever) for a 'hover' action. I'd presume that Mozilla is doing this all
the time, but it only ever becomes visible in cases like this.
I have deliberately added a </a> after the word 'this' in the first paragraph to
make it clear that the effect does indeed end when a </a> is found.
-- Chris
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 07:52:10 +1000, Chris Cason wrote:
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> "Chris Cason" <new### [at] deletethispovrayorg> wrote in message
news:3d345e3f@news.povray.org...
>>
>> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3d3433e0@news.povray.org...
>> > Could someone give me a (small) example where the reported misbehaviour
>> > happens?
>>
>> I'll see if I can restore a copy of the page where this was happening.
>
> http://www.povray.org/resources/newsgroups/old-oetut.html
>
> For the effect to be visible, you need to have a style that applies an underline
> (or whatever) for a 'hover' action. I'd presume that Mozilla is doing this all
> the time, but it only ever becomes visible in cases like this.
>
> I have deliberately added a </a> after the word 'this' in the first paragraph to
> make it clear that the effect does indeed end when a </a> is found.
The effect can also be seen on the bottom half of this page this page (not a
POV page):
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/GoodMorningAmerica/GMA020709Breast_feeding_at_eight.html
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Chris Cason <new### [at] deletethispovrayorg> wrote:
> http://www.povray.org/resources/newsgroups/old-oetut.html
Hmm... What's the main difference between my example and that? I don't
understand.
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N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}// - Warp -
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On 16 Jul 2002 18:38:29 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Chris Cason <new### [at] deletethispovrayorg> wrote:
>> http://www.povray.org/resources/newsgroups/old-oetut.html
>
> Hmm... What's the main difference between my example and that? I don't
> understand.
I think it's the hover thingie in the CSS that's doing it as much as
anything else.
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/*\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\~ -/__\\__\\__\\__\\__\\*//* Steve */
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In article <3d342fad@news.povray.org>, new### [at] deletethispovrayorg
says...
> > the </a> tag. Leaving the </a> tag out is a syntax error. What should the
>
> Not really. Browsers are expected to have the ability to infer a closing
> tag when one should obviously be there. A good example would be the sequence
> <tr><td>Some Text</tr>. I have left out a </td>, but any browser will infer
> its presence and act as if it were supplied.
You should really look at the specs (even if Thorsten for some
strange reasons doesn't like them).
There are elements wich need a closing tag (<div> for example), elements
where it is optional (<td>, <li>), ones where it isn't allowed (<img>,
<br>).
Lutz-Peter
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In article <3d348b44@news.povray.org>, tho### [at] trfde says...
> Nope, the stylesheet is correct.
It is. But its meaning is not the one you think it is.
> Mozilla is broken, or as they call it, it
> has this "feature".
With "a:hover { text-decoration: underline ; color: #ff0000 }"
you say, that you want the content of the element "a" to be underlined if
the mouse is hovering above it.
Thats EXACTLY what Mozilla does.
Hint: The pseudo-class :hover is NOT restricted to links.
Lutz-Peter
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Lutz-Peter Hooge <lpv### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> With "a:hover { text-decoration: underline ; color: #ff0000 }"
> you say, that you want the content of the element "a" to be underlined if
> the mouse is hovering above it.
> Thats EXACTLY what Mozilla does.
So this means that it's all the other browsers which are broken because
they don't do what the CSS is telling them to do?-)
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In article <3d34c5e8@news.povray.org>, war### [at] tagpovrayorg says...
> So this means that it's all the other browsers which are broken because
> they don't do what the CSS is telling them to do?-)
How do you come to that conclusion?
Povray doesn't implement subsurface scattering - does that mean that it's
"broken"?
There is no need to implement everything in every browser -
but if a web author uses a specific feature he should be aware of the
fact that thare could be a browser that actually implements this feature
to its full extend.
Lutz-Peter
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