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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_=27Yadgar=27_Bleimann?= <yaz### [at] gmx de> wrote:
> Hi(gh)!
>
> On 07.03.2013 09:11, clipka wrote:
>
> > "This is a binding legal agreement between you and Persistence of Vision
> > Raytracer Pty. Ltd. ACN 105 891 870 ("POV"), a company incorporated in
> > the state of Victoria, Australia, for the product known as the
> > "Persistence of Vision Raytracer(tm)", also referred to herein as
> > "POV-Ray(tm)". [...]"
> >
> >
> > Quiz: Reading this piece of legalese carefully...
> >
> > (1) Whom do you need to contact for permission to use the term
> > "POV-Ray(tm)"?
>
> The Persistence of Vision Raytracer Pty. Ltd.!
>
> >
> > (2) Whom do you need to contact for permission to use the acronym "POV"?
>
> Nobody, as mere POV is not the legally protected trademark?
>
> See you in Khyberspace!
>
> Yadgar
BTW, I can have misunderstood something - as ever - but I learned that one can
register new master-domain names nowadays. Has someone thought about the idea to
register .pov (like .org, .edu or .de) to Persistence of Vision Raytracer Pty.
Ltd.?
Best regards,
Michael
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Le 07/03/2013 21:18, MichaelJF nous fit lire :
> BTW, I can have misunderstood something - as ever - but I learned that one can
> register new master-domain names nowadays. Has someone thought about the idea to
> register .pov (like .org, .edu or .de) to Persistence of Vision Raytracer Pty.
> Ltd.?
you have the money ? The first call is over (but undecided yet, IIRC),
and it was rather a big amount to provision (not $10 buy).
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Just start your website and wait untillt someone pursues you. Did the the same
on my work, it was my standard answer if someone said "I will complain to your
boss", "gladly I am curious who it is"
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On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 01:18:48 +0100, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
> Is there any chance to get permission to use "pov" as part of a domain
> name?
The person to ask would be Chris Cason; he's the project coordinator and
as I recall, the owner for all the sites. If he's not the person to ask,
he would know who is. :)
Jim
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Le_Forgeron <jgr### [at] freefr> wrote:
> Le 07/03/2013 21:18, MichaelJF nous fit lire :
> > BTW, I can have misunderstood something - as ever - but I learned that one can
> > register new master-domain names nowadays. Has someone thought about the idea to
> > register .pov (like .org, .edu or .de) to Persistence of Vision Raytracer Pty.
> > Ltd.?
>
> you have the money ? The first call is over (but undecided yet, IIRC),
> and it was rather a big amount to provision (not $10 buy).
Certainly not. Sorry, I was not aware about this special detail. I only learned
about the possibility, not the pricing. So better forget about this proposal.
Best regards,
Michael
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Hi(gh)!
On 08.03.2013 17:01, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 01:18:48 +0100, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
>
>> Is there any chance to get permission to use "pov" as part of a domain
>> name?
>
> The person to ask would be Chris Cason; he's the project coordinator and
> as I recall, the owner for all the sites. If he's not the person to ask,
> he would know who is. :)
I'm not sure whether you understood my question correctly... I did not
ask about domain *endings* containing or being "pov" (i. e.
www.xxxxx.pov) but rather about domains containing "pov" in their name
parts, such as www.povearth.org!
Can such names be used without explicit permission from the POV team?
See you in Khyberspace!
Yadgar
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> Can such names be used without explicit permission from the POV team?
Legally speaking a name cannot be used in the context of a certain product
or activity only if that name has been officially trademarked (for use
with such a product or activity. Trademarks are always tied to some
specific usage. For example "Apple" is a trademarked name by Apple Inc,
but only in the context of to computer technology. The trademark does not
apply if you eg. want to use it in the context of food industry.)
If "POV" has been trademarked in relation to computer graphics, then
legally speaking you cannot use it in that context without permission
(although this depends on your jurisdiction, of course; trademarks are
not universal.)
Even if it hasn't been trademarked, it's of course still *polite* to ask
for the use of the term in this context, even if you are not legally bound
to do so.
--
- Warp
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On 10/03/2013 11:44 AM, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
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> I'm not sure whether you understood my question correctly... I did not
> ask about domain *endings* containing or being "pov" (i. e.
> www.xxxxx.pov) but rather about domains containing "pov" in their name
> parts, such as www.povearth.org!
>
Does this help?
http://www.register.com/domain/searchresults.rcmx?searchOrigin=domainTakenPage&domain=povearth&selectedTLDs=.org&x=36&y=32
> Can such names be used without explicit permission from the POV team?
>
Since POV can stand for several things I would say that you can. But if
I wanted to use it I would ask Chris.
http://www.acronymfinder.com/POV.html
--
Regards
Stephen
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On 10/03/2013 12:24 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 10/03/2013 11:44 AM, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
>
>
>> Can such names be used without explicit permission from the POV team?
>>
>
> Since POV can stand for several things I would say that you can.
Oops! Warp's answer corrects mine.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:44:44 +0100, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
> Hi(gh)!
>
> On 08.03.2013 17:01, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 01:18:48 +0100, Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann wrote:
>>
>>> Is there any chance to get permission to use "pov" as part of a domain
>>> name?
>>
>> The person to ask would be Chris Cason; he's the project coordinator
>> and as I recall, the owner for all the sites. If he's not the person
>> to ask,
>> he would know who is. :)
>
> I'm not sure whether you understood my question correctly... I did not
> ask about domain *endings* containing or being "pov" (i. e.
> www.xxxxx.pov) but rather about domains containing "pov" in their name
> parts, such as www.povearth.org!
>
> Can such names be used without explicit permission from the POV team?
It probably would be best to ask, just to be safe.
But the question you asked was if you could get permission, not could you
do this without asking permission. :)
Jim
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