Dre wrote:
> I've used beta's for years yet POV is the *only* program without fail that 
> has these unneccessary restrictions.
> 
> Oh well, looks like I'm on my own here, back to your regular programming.
> 
> <looks around for other renderers to try>
> 
> Cheers Dre 
> 
> 

There is a difference between using beta software, and beta testing.
Since the POV-Ray advice is "use 3.6, it is stable" it is obvious that
they are not looking for people to just use the beta version.

If you aren't used to beta testing, I guess it seems like a lot of hoops
to jump through, waiting to hit the button to extend the timer. But,
compared to the NDA and test schedule of playing a beta MMO, or the
several times a week download of code for a multiplayer online game,
this is nothing.

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Christian Froeschlin <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote:
> In a nutshell, you need to select "install for all users"
> during the installation to install under program files.

  Perhaps the installer could make this crystal clear so that the user will
be fully aware what will happen if the selection is or isn't made?

-- 
                                                          - Warp

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Dre schrieb:

> So because there is an arbritrary date set, testers have to put up with 
> annoying nag messages?

Yes, exactly :)

BTW, that message will annoy you only once a week - doesn't sound too 
bad to me.

> <looks around for other renderers to try>

Feel free to do so.

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clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Dre schrieb:
> > <looks around for other renderers to try>
>
> Feel free to do so.

Cut that out, you'll lose a sale.

Oh wait, this is freeware developed by people with regular jobs in their spare
time purely for the enjoyment of those who chose to use it.

-tgq

Sorry for the sarcasm, but this is at leats the 34th time we've gone through
this same thread for 3.7 development, not to mention 3.6 and 3.5 beta and RC
development, and it gets a bit redundant, espescially from someone who claims to
be a long-time user.

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Trevor G Quayle schrieb:

>> Feel free to do so.
> 
> Cut that out, you'll lose a sale.
> 
> Oh wait, this is freeware developed by people with regular jobs in their spare
> time purely for the enjoyment of those who chose to use it.

In my case, it's actually even pure selfishness to contribute to 
POV-Ray: I use that renderer myself, so I do want it improved - and 
contributing the changes to the official codebase is the easiest way to 
keep my own patched version in sync with the official betas :-P

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"Christian Froeschlin" <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote in message 
news:4ac46041@news.povray.org...
> Dre wrote:
>
>> Why wont 3.7b let me install it where I want?
>
> In a nutshell, you need to select "install for all users"
> during the installation to install under program files. This
> requires administrator privileges at least under Vista and
> it's probably safer to have them under XP as well.

Thanks for the info.  Thats pretty weird behaviour for an msi file...

Cheers Dre

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Stephen wrote:

> I have to temporally switch off UAC to install the beta on my Vista system or it
> does not install.

That's because there is no built-in support in Vista for letting the
user specify "Run as Adminstrator ..." for an MSI. Here is a workaround:

http://www.symantec.com/connect/downloads/msi-run-administrator-context-menu-vista

Alternatively, it might work to use

   runas /user:administrator msiexec -i *.msi

from the command line.

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On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:38:40 +0200, Christian Froeschlin <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>
>> I have to temporally switch off UAC to install the beta on my Vista system or it
>> does not install.
>
>That's because there is no built-in support in Vista for letting the
>user specify "Run as Adminstrator ..." for an MSI. Here is a workaround:
>
>http://www.symantec.com/connect/downloads/msi-run-administrator-context-menu-vista
>
>Alternatively, it might work to use
>
>   runas /user:administrator msiexec -i *.msi
>
>from the command line.

I'll try that when the next update comes out :D
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Regards
     Stephen

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Christian Froeschlin wrote:
>   runas /user:administrator msiexec -i *.msi

I opened an administrator cmd.exe and ran it from there.

-- 
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   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".

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"Dre" <and### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> <looks around for other renderers to try>
>


Recommendation of a really good one:
http://povray.org/download/#binaries
(It's version 3.6. Look under the appropriate tab for your OS).


If anything, I'd disagree with your complaint so much as to risk being a critic
on the other side of the spectrum.  If anything povray's updates are overly
boring.  There are other projects in programming where the "stable" version is
hopelessly unworkable and the features-you're-dying-for aren't available until
you get the pre-alpha version.  Neither are the case with povray.

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