David Buck wrote:
> I'll keep you advised as the development progresses.

Good news all around.

Regards,
John
(who still hasn't started his TC-RTC entry for this round)

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Stephen wrote:
> 
> I would like to add my thanks to you both for this. I would also like to call
> for a big thank you to Steve (St) for setting up the TC-RTC in the interim. I
> know that he has spent a great deal of effort and money on this for the
> community. 
> 

I wonder if it might be appropriate for the reborn IRTC to start off 
with a "TINA CHeP" topic...?

--Sherry Shaw


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On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:55:00 -0600, Sherry Shaw <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>> 
>> I would like to add my thanks to you both for this. I would also like to call
>> for a big thank you to Steve (St) for setting up the TC-RTC in the interim. I
>> know that he has spent a great deal of effort and money on this for the
>> community. 
>> 
>
>I wonder if it might be appropriate for the reborn IRTC to start off 
>with a "TINA CHeP" topic...?
>

A good idea.

Regards
	Stephen

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wooHoo! :-D

Interesting choice of seaside and smalltalk. I will have to look into those, 
and maybe give them a try on my Ubuntu box.
The use of the Seaside framework is much more in the spirit of PovRay than 
the .NET framework too, IMO. Good choice.

I am glad to see the IRTC coming back, cheers all around!

Ian

"David Buck" <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote in message 
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> As you likely know, the IRTC (Internet Ray Tracing Competition) has been 
> down for over a year now.  I've been in discussions with Chris Cason for a 
> while now on how we can resurrect it and I'm happy to announce that we've 
> come up with a proposal.
>
> I have assembled a small group of developers including myself and Randal 
> Schwartz who will volunteer our time to re-write the software in Smalltalk 
> using the Seaside web framework.  In the process, we will try to address 
> some of the issues that led to the demise of the previous system and add 
> some flexibility to do more fun things with the site in the future.
>
> I do realize that while the IRTC was down, the TC-RTC started up.  There 
> has been some discussion here that there's no need for two competitions. 
> Still, it's the IRTC that has the most visibility and the new site should 
> attract a lot more.  We will import all of the previous years competition 
> results into the system and have them available for viewing once the site 
> is up.
>
> If you have any questions or suggestions, you can send them to me at 
> dav### [at] simberoncom.  Please include the text IRTC in the subject line.
>
> I'll keep you advised as the development progresses.
>
> David Buck

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[GDS|Entropy] wrote:
> wooHoo! :-D
> 
> Interesting choice of seaside and smalltalk. I will have to look into those, 
> and maybe give them a try on my Ubuntu box.
> The use of the Seaside framework is much more in the spirit of PovRay than 
> the .NET framework too, IMO. Good choice.

If Seaside is not a Microsoft product, then it is more in the spirit of 
POV-Ray than .NET, by virtue of that fact alone.

Regards,
John
(who can never resist an opportunity to make a joke about M$)

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David Buck wrote:
> I've been in discussions with Chris Cason for 
> a while now on how we can resurrect it and I'm happy to announce that 
> we've come up with a proposal.

Okay, since nobody else has said it yet, and because I believe it
certainly is fitting in this circumstance, I'll get it out of the way:



      "W00T!!!"

:)

Only one suggestion: might we see the return of the IRTC CD 
compilations? I have years one through five (1996 - 2001), and would 
love to buy more to aid the effort, but I never saw another one after 
Year Five.

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"Sherry Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> schreef in bericht 
news:47ceb468@news.povray.org...
> Stephen wrote:
>>
>> I would like to add my thanks to you both for this. I would also like to 
>> call
>> for a big thank you to Steve (St) for setting up the TC-RTC in the 
>> interim. I
>> know that he has spent a great deal of effort and money on this for the
>> community.
Absolutely!! Steve is/has been a Prime Mover in keeping the community on 
their toes :-) So I jgladly oin the thanks.
And I have said it elsewhere, I shall be sad to see the TC-RTC disappear....

>
> I wonder if it might be appropriate for the reborn IRTC to start off with 
> a "TINA CHeP" topic...?

Oh yes! That would be an excellent idea!!

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none wrote:
> David Buck wrote:
>> I've been in discussions with Chris Cason for a while now on how we 
>> can resurrect it and I'm happy to announce that we've come up with a 
>> proposal.
> 
> Okay, since nobody else has said it yet, and because I believe it
> certainly is fitting in this circumstance, I'll get it out of the way:
> 
> 
> 
>      "W00T!!!"
> 
> :)
> 
> Only one suggestion: might we see the return of the IRTC CD 
> compilations? I have years one through five (1996 - 2001), and would 
> love to buy more to aid the effort, but I never saw another one after 
> Year Five.

In my discussions with Chris Cason, one of the issues he wanted resolved 
was an easier way to produce the IRTC CD's.  The new site is being 
designed to make that process easier.  I expect, therefore, that the 
IRTC CD's will re-start once we get going.

David Buck

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"Sherry Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote in message 
news:47ceb468@news.povray.org...
> Stephen wrote:
>>
>> I would like to add my thanks to you both for this. I would also like to 
>> call
>> for a big thank you to Steve (St) for setting up the TC-RTC in the 
>> interim. I
>> know that he has spent a great deal of effort and money on this for the
>> community.
>
> I wonder if it might be appropriate for the reborn IRTC to start off with 
> a "TINA CHeP" topic...?

         Heck, yes, good one. <Steve looks for TINA's red rose again>   ;)

           ~Steve~



>
> --Sherry Shaw
>
>
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none wrote:
> Only one suggestion: might we see the return of the IRTC CD 
> compilations? I have years one through five (1996 - 2001), and would 
> love to buy more to aid the effort, but I never saw another one after 
> Year Five.

As David pointed out, making the CD's was difficult - I guess primarily
because I didn't want to just dump the data onto the CD. I wanted to try to
identify the same entrant across all rounds and years  (this was more
difficult than it sounds) so as to maintain a list of entries and results,
and I wanted to re-format the text entry files into HTML (again, more
difficult than it sounds, especially with the changes made to the files by
the IRTC submission system - stripping high characters, re-wrapping the
text, and so forth). In the end I just couldn't justify the time.

-- Chris

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