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From: Alain
Subject: Re: New SDL for POVRay
Date: 21 Sep 2007 10:39:50
Message: <46f3d7b6$1@news.povray.org>
Jérôme M. Berger nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/09/20 14:41:
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> Alain wrote:
>> nemesis nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/09/19 17:10:
>>> "Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] povplacecom> wrote:
>>>> I mean: as it is now, POV-SDL has a C-like syntax.  I think it would
>>>> be a
>>>> very bad idea to change the POV-SDL into a BASIC-like syntax, or a
>>>> Python-like syntax
>>> hey, how about pretty much no syntax at all?
>>>
>>> (union (plane y (pigment (checker 0 1)))
>>>          (sphere 0 1
>>>                  (texture (pigment (rgb x))
>>>                           (finish (phong 0.8 30)))))
>>> (light-source white (* 5 #(-1 1 -1)))
>>> (camera (z -3) 0)
>>>
>>> well, except for Lots of Irritating Silly Parentheses, that is... :)
>>>
>> Makes me think of Lisp! TONS of parenteses ;-)
>>
> 	Look more closely at his last sentence. Especially the capital
> letters... ;)
> 
> 		Jerome
It makes for a nice alternative for LISP, but not what the creators had in mind ;-)
Similar to:
I Built a Monster
It's Beter Manualy

The legend tell that those where from peoples working in THAT compagny...

-- 
Alain
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   I went to a massage parlor. It was self service.
   	Rodney Dangerfield


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: New SDL for POVRay
Date: 23 Sep 2007 18:50:00
Message: <web.46f6ed37e7dc742817b7c360@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> William Tracy <wtr### [at] calpolyedu> wrote:
> > If we're going to re appropriate an existing language, maybe we could
> > look at some of the functional languages (Lisp, ML, etc.).
>
>   Next you are going to suggest Haskell.
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp

BTW, just saw this in reddit:

http://www.nobugs.org/developer/htrace/index.html

though it's just a toy raytracer from 2001...


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From: Chris Cason
Subject: Re: New SDL for POVRay
Date: 24 Sep 2007 03:47:46
Message: <46f76ba2$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> Can someone set something up somewhere?

Can someone recommend specific Wiki software?

It'd need to support external authentication (to link in to the POV user
registration system), and captchas or other anti-spam measures.

Anyone have any experience with this?

Alternatively if someone here wants to undertake to maintain an official
POV wiki and has some experience in site management, let me know and I'll
set them up with some webspace on the povray.org server and let them loose.

-- Chris


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: New SDL for POVRay
Date: 24 Sep 2007 09:23:22
Message: <p3eff3tms3rmajtt2uvdbf0qokjltod8dp@4ax.com>
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:47:45 +1000, Chris Cason
<del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote:

>Can someone recommend specific Wiki software?

Some time ago, I set up MediaWiki at work for use as a company-wide wiki.  It's the
same one used for Wikipedia.  It works very well.  At the time, it was the best one
out there.  This may still be
the case...

http://www.mediawiki.org/


>It'd need to support external authentication (to link in to the POV user
>registration system), and captchas or other anti-spam measures.

I believe there are extensions written for MediaWiki that support these requirements.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: New SDL for POVRay
Date: 24 Sep 2007 12:12:22
Message: <46f7e1e6$1@news.povray.org>
As with Kyle, I have some experience with MediaWiki - I've set it up a 
few times and we use it at work.  I'm rubbish at the stylesheets and 
whatnot, but authentication and whatnot should be fairly easy to get 
going.  What type of database is used on the backend to hold the user 
information?

Jim


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From: Charles C
Subject: Re: New SDL for POVRay
Date: 24 Sep 2007 19:55:00
Message: <web.46f84d4ae7dc7428c667cf480@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> As with Kyle, I have some experience with MediaWiki - I've set it up a
> few times and we use it at work.  I'm rubbish at the stylesheets and
> whatnot, but authentication and whatnot should be fairly easy to get
> going.  What type of database is used on the backend to hold the user
> information?
>
> Jim

Is this undertaking going to coincide with the SDL object/code repository
that was discussed sometime back?
Charles


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: New SDL for POVRay
Date: 24 Sep 2007 21:20:57
Message: <46f86279$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:50:34 -0400, Charles C wrote:

> Is this undertaking going to coincide with the SDL object/code
> repository that was discussed sometime back?
> Charles

Personally, I couldn't answer that, but I don't see why such a wiki 
couldn't include a collection of examples.

Jim


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From: Bryan Valencia
Subject: Re: New SDL for POVRay
Date: 25 Sep 2007 14:16:39
Message: <46f95087$1@news.povray.org>
why not go super-simple?

lighting {4pm, August 12, Milan, Italy, outdoors}
city{detail=fine}

camera{Canon AE-1, F2.8, 1/100th
	filters{anti-glare, polarized}
}

car{Bentley, color Red, very shiny}

woman{sexiness 9.5, evening_wear{color Black fabric Silk} winking}




nemesis wrote:
> "Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] povplacecom> wrote:
>> I mean: as it is now, POV-SDL has a C-like syntax.  I think it would be a
>> very bad idea to change the POV-SDL into a BASIC-like syntax, or a
>> Python-like syntax
> 
> hey, how about pretty much no syntax at all?
> 
> (union (plane y (pigment (checker 0 1)))
>          (sphere 0 1
>                  (texture (pigment (rgb x))
>                           (finish (phong 0.8 30)))))
> (light-source white (* 5 #(-1 1 -1)))
> (camera (z -3) 0)
> 
> well, except for Lots of Irritating Silly Parentheses, that is... :)
> 
> 
>


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From: Ger
Subject: Re: New SDL for POVRay
Date: 25 Sep 2007 17:08:23
Message: <46f978c7@news.povray.org>
Bryan Valencia wrote:

> why not go super-simple?
> 
> lighting {4pm, August 12, Milan, Italy, outdoors}
> city{detail=fine}
> 
> camera{Canon AE-1, F2.8, 1/100th
> filters{anti-glare, polarized}
> }

What if you don't have a Canon?

> 
> car{Bentley, color Red, very shiny}
> 
> woman{sexiness 9.5, evening_wear{color Black fabric Silk} winking}
> 
> 

-- 
Ger


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: New SDL for POVRay
Date: 25 Sep 2007 18:30:13
Message: <46F98CF6.80809@hotmail.com>
andrel wrote:

> Can someone set something up somewhere?
> If not, I might feel forced to sift through this mess again to collect 
> all arguments and put them on a simple html page, but be aware that that 
> one will be highly biased and not changeable by others ;)

Ok, some of the discussion is summarized at:

http://members.chello.nl/a.c.linnenbank/newsdlforpov.html


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