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From: Hugo
Subject: New POV-Ray dedicated modeler and animations system: testers wanted
Date: 25 Apr 2006 16:07:50
Message: <444e8196$1@news.povray.org>
Hello all,

I've been working on the development of a new POV-Ray modeler and 
animation system for the MS-Windows platform. The application is not yet 
ready for a public beta release, but it is getting very close.

The application highlights are:
  - Native animation support
  - Native POV-Ray SDL import capability
  - Full integration with POV-Ray

You can see more details and also some screenshots at www.bishop3d.com.

I'm looking for anyone interested in doing some preliminary tests to 
help me to analyze/improve the application ergonomy and stability over 
different systems as well as fine-tuning it.

If you are interested you can private e-mail me and I will send you a 
link from where you can download it.

Thanks,

Hugo.

hug### [at] yahoocombr


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: New POV-Ray dedicated modeler and animations system: testers wanted
Date: 25 Apr 2006 17:30:08
Message: <444e94e0@news.povray.org>
Hugo wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I've been working on the development of a new POV-Ray modeler and 
> animation system for the MS-Windows platform. The application is not yet 
> ready for a public beta release, but it is getting very close.
...

Hello Hugo

Will there be a Linux version ?

- If not, will Bishop3D run under Wine in Linux ?

-- 
Tor Olav
http://subcube.com


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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: New POV-Ray dedicated modeler and animations system: testerswanted
Date: 25 Apr 2006 21:07:10
Message: <444ec7be@news.povray.org>
Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:

> Will there be a Linux version ?

There are currently no plans for that, the GUI is totally based on 
Borland's VCL and porting it to other platforms would require a complete 
rewrite of it with some other windows library.

> - If not, will Bishop3D run under Wine in Linux ?

I really don't know (I know nearly nothing about what makes an 
application wine-friendly). I think the only way to find out is to give 
it a try...


Hugo.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: New POV-Ray dedicated modeler and animations system: testers wanted
Date: 25 Apr 2006 21:26:03
Message: <444ecc2b@news.povray.org>
How is it different (=better) from Moray?

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: New POV-Ray dedicated modeler and animations system: testers wanted
Date: 25 Apr 2006 23:30:16
Message: <pan.2006.04.26.03.29.17.828599@nospam.com>
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:26:03 -0400, Warp wrote:

>   How is it different (=better) from Moray?

I'd say native import of SDL is a significant thing.

Jim


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From: Ger
Subject: Re: New POV-Ray dedicated modeler and animations system: testerswanted
Date: 26 Apr 2006 08:37:30
Message: <444f698a@news.povray.org>
Hugo wrote:

> Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> 
>> Will there be a Linux version ?
> 
> There are currently no plans for that, the GUI is totally based on
> Borland's VCL and porting it to other platforms would require a complete
> rewrite of it with some other windows library.

Have a look at FreePascal. It's a Delphi alike for Linux. Still in the works
but coming along at an amizing pace

> 
>> - If not, will Bishop3D run under Wine in Linux ?
> 
> I really don't know (I know nearly nothing about what makes an
> application wine-friendly). I think the only way to find out is to give
> it a try...
> 
> 
> Hugo.

-- 
Ger


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From: "Jérôme M. Berger"
Subject: Re: New POV-Ray dedicated modeler and animations system: testerswanted
Date: 26 Apr 2006 13:17:24
Message: <444fab24$1@news.povray.org>
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Hugo wrote:
> Tor Olav Kristensen wrote:
> 
>> Will there be a Linux version ?
> 
> 
> There are currently no plans for that, the GUI is totally based on
> Borland's VCL and porting it to other platforms would require a complete
> rewrite of it with some other windows library.
> 
	Borland Kylix is available for free for linux: look for the open
edition here:
http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_kylix.html

		Jerome
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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: New POV-Ray dedicated modeler and animations system: testerswanted
Date: 26 Apr 2006 17:48:51
Message: <444feac3$1@news.povray.org>
Ger wrote:

> Have a look at FreePascal. It's a Delphi alike for Linux. Still in the works
> but coming along at an amizing pace

Hi Ger,

FreePascal wouldn't help much since the application is written in C++ 
and compiled with Borland C++ Builder (except for some third part 
components that are written in Delphi).

Best regards,
Hugo.


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From: Hugo
Subject: Re: New POV-Ray dedicated modeler and animations system: testerswanted
Date: 26 Apr 2006 17:52:28
Message: <444feb9c@news.povray.org>

> 	Borland Kylix is available for free for linux: look for the open
> edition here:
> http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_kylix.html



Kylix would be the way to go. But, as I mentioned, the real problem is 
the heavy dependency of the application on Borland's VCL (Visual Control 
Library). VCL is not supported by Kylix.

Best regards,
Hugo.


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From: "Jérôme M. Berger"
Subject: Re: New POV-Ray dedicated modeler and animations system: testerswanted
Date: 26 Apr 2006 18:28:33
Message: <444ff411@news.povray.org>
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Hugo wrote:

> 
>>     Borland Kylix is available for free for linux: look for the open
>> edition here:
>> http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_kylix.html
> 
> 

> 
> Kylix would be the way to go. But, as I mentioned, the real problem is
> the heavy dependency of the application on Borland's VCL (Visual Control
> Library). VCL is not supported by Kylix.
> 
	Well, I haven't installed it so I can't say how complete it is, but
there sure are VCL-related headers and libraries in the Open Edition
of Kylix for Linux:

/include/vcl/BindHelp.hpp
/include/vcl/Classes.hpp
/include/vcl/Contnrs.hpp
/include/vcl/ConvUtils.hpp
/include/vcl/DateUtils.hpp
...
/include/vcl/qworkspace.hb
/include/vcl/qworkspace.hhk
/include/vcl/sysclass.h
/include/vcl/syscomp.h
/include/vcl/syscurr.h
/include/vcl/sysdyn.h
/include/vcl/sysmac.h
/include/vcl/sysopen.h
/include/vcl/sysset.h
/include/vcl/systdate.h
/include/vcl/systobj.h
/include/vcl/systvar.h
/include/vcl/sysvari.h
/include/vcl/ta.h
/include/vcl/wstring.h

		Jerome
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