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From: Fabien HENON
Subject: Opteron 64 bit CPU : POV benchmark
Date: 1 May 2003 17:23:43
Message: <3eb1905f@news.povray.org>
Here are some results on the new AMD Opteron for those who are 
interested in rendering times.


http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000263

Fabien H


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Opteron 64 bit CPU : POV benchmark
Date: 1 May 2003 19:01:02
Message: <3eb1a72e@news.povray.org>
Fabien HENON <fab### [at] freefr> wrote:
> http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000263

  It would be quite awesome if a 1GHz Itanium II can render about three
times faster than a 1.8GHz Opteron or a 2.8GHz Xeon.

  Since that one was not made by them, I wonder if there's some other
explanation (eg. the one who made the test used no antialiasing or the
wrong resolution).

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From: earthdog
Subject: Re: Opteron 64 bit CPU : POV benchmark
Date: 1 May 2003 19:05:39
Message: <pan.2003.05.01.23.05.39.599190@reallyNOSPAMevil3d.net>
On Thu, 01 May 2003 23:23:40 +0000, Fabien HENON wrote:

> Here are some results on the new AMD Opteron for those who are 
> interested in rendering times.
> 
> 
> http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000263
> 
> Fabien H

Was the Opteron running on a optimized self-compile, or was it the stock
download from povray.org?  I didn't notice any mention of it on the page
and there wasn't any mention in the link.

-->Jeff


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Opteron 64 bit CPU : POV benchmark
Date: 1 May 2003 21:03:01
Message: <3EB1C2C6.7010409@videotron.ca>
Program ended abnormally on 5/1/03 7:05 PM, Due to a catastrophic
earthdog error:
> On Thu, 01 May 2003 23:23:40 +0000, Fabien HENON wrote:
> 
> 
>>Here are some results on the new AMD Opteron for those who are 
>>interested in rendering times.
>>
>>
>>http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=55000263
>>
>>Fabien H
> 
> 
> Was the Opteron running on a optimized self-compile, or was it the stock
> download from povray.org?  I didn't notice any mention of it on the page
> and there wasn't any mention in the link.
> 

"The standard binary distribution from the POV-Ray site was used (running Linux)."


Second line of the paragraph below the results.

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From: earthdog
Subject: Re: Opteron 64 bit CPU : POV benchmark
Date: 1 May 2003 23:23:08
Message: <pan.2003.05.02.03.23.08.656153@reallyNOSPAMevil3d.net>
On Thu, 01 May 2003 20:58:46 -0400, Francois Labreque wrote:


>> Was the Opteron running on a optimized self-compile, or was it the stock
>> download from povray.org?  I didn't notice any mention of it on the page
>> and there wasn't any mention in the link.
>> 
> 
> "The standard binary distribution from the POV-Ray site
> was used (running Linux)."
> 
> 
> Second line of the paragraph below the results.

Oops.  Missed that, didn't I?  But that would explain some of the problem?

-->Jeff


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Opteron 64 bit CPU : POV benchmark
Date: 3 May 2003 13:25:32
Message: <3EB3FB88.F203F2E3@hotmail.com>
earthdog wrote:
> 
> Oops.  Missed that, didn't I?  But that would explain some of the
> problem?

Using different compiles would indeed invalidate the results (unless
both compiles were done by the same compiler, and optimized for each
CPU, which was not the case here).

I suspect that an Opteron-optimized compile would do considerably
better.

Regards,
John


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From: Le Forgeron
Subject: Re: Opteron 64 bit CPU : POV benchmark
Date: 6 May 2003 07:25:22
Message: <3EB79C7D.4020300@free.fr>

> earthdog wrote:
> 
>>Oops.  Missed that, didn't I?  But that would explain some of the
>>problem?
> 
> 
> Using different compiles would indeed invalidate the results (unless
> both compiles were done by the same compiler, and optimized for each
> CPU, which was not the case here).
> 

Depends on what you want to test.
For the test they show, if they wanted to see the relative speed
of the processor running old-code application, using the same binary 
distribution for all would have been mandatory, which should have
rules out the Itanium2 measurement (which I do not trust either, yet).
If they wanted to see the relative speed of the processor doing 
something serious and real (and ray-tracing IS a real thing, not
like the classical benchmarks doing loop in the CPU cache), they might 
have include the Itanium2 results, but to be fair they should have done
a custom compile (if available) of each system and application.


> I suspect that an Opteron-optimized compile would do considerably
> better.

I hope so, but it may take more time for it than for the Itanium2: Intel 
make the optimising compiler for that one (but will it be available
at the same price as the Gnu/Linux for everybody, I really doubt that).
I believe an opteron-compile would perform better, and it might
even be 'interesting' to rewrite Povray as multithreaded rendering 
engine (I know the FAQ about that, just dreaming, with a 3 or 4 Opterons 
system, just to keep the memory latency low).
I also believe the Itanium2-version will be out-of-reach for the
mundane like me, and the performance with the Gnu suite are still 
unknown (better or worst than the Opteron, who know ?).


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From: Rick [Kitty5]
Subject: Re: Opteron 64 bit CPU : POV benchmark
Date: 9 May 2003 13:49:15
Message: <3ebbea1b@news.povray.org>
> and the performance with the Gnu suite are still
> unknown (better or worst than the Opteron, who know ?).

But we know exactly what to expect from GCC :P


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