Tom Melly wrote:
> 
> "Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3cac582f@news.povray.org...
> >
> >   IMHO the rules should say that the scene must not issue any warnings.
> >
> 
> Why? This would invalidate a lot of perfectly acceptable shortcuts. Suppose I
> make an image that works by casting shadows, do I have to have a pigment for
> each shape even though they are never seen?

Warp goes on these POV-Ray purist kicks once in a while. He is mostly
harmless but bears considerable watching. Of course it is a ridiculous
requirement. Warnings do not effect the resulting image and will not be
prohibited.

-- 
Ken Tyler

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On 4 Apr 2002 09:09:10 -0500, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>> What about isosurface max_gradient warning ?
>
>  A warning is a warning?

On of my failed entriens was broken even with max_gradient 666 :

Warning: The maximum gradient found was 35382651221311881000000000000.000, but
max_gradient of the isosurface was set to 666.000. The isosurface may contain
holes! Adjust max_gradient to get a proper rendering of the isosurface.

Of course I started this with evaluate but then it took 480 hours to render. It
is my best entry. I wonder should I wait with it for next round or it could be
not fair to use old script ?

ABX

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"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
> Warp goes on these POV-Ray purist kicks once in a while. He is mostly
> harmless but bears considerable watching. Of course it is a ridiculous
> requirement. Warnings do not effect the resulting image and will not be
> prohibited.

lol ...

I've no probs with POV-purism ...
But IMHO this includes the use of the shortcuts, POV-Ray offers ...
So if we know, what we do with our tools, we can thankfully leave the warnings
aside, as they are probably intended ? ...

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On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:30:49 +0100, "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
> >   IMHO the rules should say that the scene must not issue any warnings.
>
> Why? This would invalidate a lot of perfectly acceptable shortcuts. Suppose I
> make an image that works by casting shadows, do I have to have a pigment for
> each shape even though they are never seen?

I think that no-warning strategy is nice but should be used rather in useful
tools, inlude files, macros distributed to others as tutorials, packages etc.
Shortest code or sig is made to confuse so no need to remove it but also no need
to not try to remove it. Just not important thing.

ABX
--
disc{z,-z#macro O()asc(substr("-+((1*(,1,/.-,*/(,&.323/'1"e,1))*.1-4#declare
e=e-1;#end#local e=26;5pigment{#local g=function(_){ceil(_)-_}function#local
k=function{pattern{object{sphere_sweep{linear_spline 13#while(e)<O(),O()//35
>.01#end}}}}{k(g(atan2(x,y)),g(ln((y+x)^2+1e-5)),0)}}finish{ambient 1}}//ABX

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Warp wrote:
> 

> > In general I'm humble to the rules and judges. The only thing I don't understand
> > that from all my seven entries my worst in any category was
> > http://10best.raytrace.com/short/ks4_800.JPG while every person I asked here
> > (phisical 'here' not virtual one) said it was one of my best :-(
> 
>   Well, I don't really understand why my landscape picture got by far the
> most points (it got 83 points while the second best got only 48).
>   Seriously, it's not *that* good. Even though it might be visually pleasing,
> it doesn't show too much technical skill. A picture which I personally
> consider a lot better, both visually and technically, is for example ks2;
> it looks really nice, and the fractal is very well done, and really fits
> the image. Still this image got only 25 points. I don't really understand why.
 
I voted mostly for landscapes because they were visually pleasing - we
weren't looking at code, or difficulty or size.  

But I just downloaded 3.5 yesterday - I have a need for some of the
features.  And the code in this contest will be really helpful in
getting a handle on certain things - being small it is unencumbered with
extraneous detail.

So I'm looking forward to more contests, even though I'm out of ideas
currently. :-(

I'm a little surprised that people didn't comment their code in the text
file, though.  I guess I went overboard commenting nearly every line.

>   Well, we can never completely understand human mind... :)

"Brain! Brain! What is brain?" - Star Trek

 
> --
> - Warp -

-- 
Tom A.

into that pit of cotton-top hell, and let them hippity-hop
all over my vulnerable flesh? - Buffy the Vampire Slayer
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Tom Melly <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
> Why? This would invalidate a lot of perfectly acceptable shortcuts.

  Are they perfectly acceptable if they issue a warning?-)

  Of course my other sig issues a warning, but that's a bug in POV-Ray
(it issues the warning even though there's no reason for it).

  Well, warnings might be acceptable, but I personally don't consider it
of good style.
  Or do you think it's ok to leave semicolons out because it still parses
ok even though POV-Ray issues a huge amount of warnings (at least if it
has been left out inside a big loop)?

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -

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Tom A. <tar### [at] my-dejacom> wrote:
> I'm a little surprised that people didn't comment their code in the text
> file, though.  I guess I went overboard commenting nearly every line.

  Commenting an obfuscated code is a laborious job and people are lazy. :)

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -

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On 4 Apr 2002 10:09:54 -0500, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>  Or do you think it's ok to leave semicolons out because it still parses
> ok even though POV-Ray issues a huge amount of warnings (at least if it
> has been left out inside a big loop)?

Warning is not a part of language.
Btw: semicolons are required now so you can't remove it.

ABX

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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3cac6cc1@news.povray.org...
> Tom Melly <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
> > Why? This would invalidate a lot of perfectly acceptable shortcuts.
>
>   Are they perfectly acceptable if they issue a warning?-)
>

Okay, "imperfectly acceptable" ;)

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I said I wouldn't "win," but I didn't kick myself out when I won 2nd place
in two categories. Hope no one minded.

Interestingly, when things got slow one week, I invited my friends to vote
(it's blind, and I *said* it's "open to the public").  It's interesting that
the week that non-raytracing, NY/NJ residents were voting (about 5), my c06
entry got LOTS of votes.  During a week that I beat the bushes at
povray.general a second time, about 5 raytracers voted, giving  c06 NO
votes.

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