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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest Results in fancy page
Date: 4 Apr 2002 07:29:25
Message: <3cac4725@news.povray.org>
Jan Walzer <jan### [at] lzernet> wrote:
> After I've seen what others did, and how others probably have smashed
> their heads, I'm not really sure if I want to be mentioned in the same
> line, as they are ...

  I really wonder who voted for a completely black image when there were
lots of great images there. No-one can seriously consider a black image
better than most of the other images.
  As I already complained in another thread, there were images which were
infinitely better than a black image which got no votes at all. I would
say this is outrageous.
  But what can we do? Humans are humans, and voters are voters. If they
vote, they vote. Who are we to judge them?

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest Results in fancy page
Date: 4 Apr 2002 07:36:20
Message: <3cac48c4@news.povray.org>

> In general I'm humble to the rules and judges. The only thing I don't understand
> that from all my seven entries my worst in any category was
> http://10best.raytrace.com/short/ks4_800.JPG while every person I asked here
> (phisical 'here' not virtual one) said it was one of my best :-(

  Well, I don't really understand why my landscape picture got by far the
most points (it got 83 points while the second best got only 48).
  Seriously, it's not *that* good. Even though it might be visually pleasing,
it doesn't show too much technical skill. A picture which I personally
consider a lot better, both visually and technically, is for example ks2;
it looks really nice, and the fractal is very well done, and really fits
the image. Still this image got only 25 points. I don't really understand why.

  Well, we can never completely understand human mind... :)

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest Results in fancy page
Date: 4 Apr 2002 08:08:51
Message: <3cac5063$1@news.povray.org>
Well, next round, I'd add the following rule:

NO use of "blank scenes", i.e., scenes without use of povray scene language.

In other words,
    background {rgb 0} //XYZ
is a valid entry; whereas
       //XYZ
is not.

As far as the nut who actually VOTED for it, well, have **you** been to see
some of the crap at MOMA in NY City?


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Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest Results in fancy page
Date: 4 Apr 2002 08:24:05
Message: <gekoau81j2vgk75om4vqgo0k2eceg1afh7@4ax.com>
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:07:32 -0500, "Greg M. Johnson" <gregj:-)565### [at] aolcom>
wrote:
> Well, next round, I'd add the following rule:
> NO use of "blank scenes", i.e., scenes without use of povray scene language.

so is this allowed ?
--------
#//ABX
--------
probably not, then is below really shortest possible and accepted code ?
--------
box{9x}//ABX
--------

ABX


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest Results in fancy page
Date: 4 Apr 2002 08:38:40
Message: <3cac5760$1@news.povray.org>

news:gekoau81j2vgk75om4vqgo0k2eceg1afh7@4ax.com...
> --------
> probably not, then is below really shortest possible and accepted code ?
> --------
> box{9x}//ABX
> --------

nah - box{9x}//TM


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Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest Results in fancy page
Date: 4 Apr 2002 08:41:13
Message: <ssloau4mdj4kf435ah0mpgft0pg0pr5mim@4ax.com>
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:38:39 +0100, "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:
> > probably not, then is below really shortest possible and accepted code ?
> > --------
> > box{9x}//ABX
> > --------
>
> nah - box{9x}//TM

from 1e point of rules:
"have it end with //XYZ, where XYZ is a (hopefully) unique 3-digit
combination of your initials and/or numbers"
:-)

ABX


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest Results in fancy page
Date: 4 Apr 2002 08:42:07
Message: <3cac582f@news.povray.org>

> probably not, then is below really shortest possible and accepted code ?
> --------
> box{9x}//ABX
> --------

  IMHO the rules should say that the scene must not issue any warnings.

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -


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Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest Results in fancy page
Date: 4 Apr 2002 08:50:54
Message: <pfmoauo5m7f89q15b11bijkvfecnus9hi6@4ax.com>
On 4 Apr 2002 08:42:07 -0500, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>  IMHO the rules should say that the scene must not issue any warnings.

What about isosurface max_gradient warning ?

ABX


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest Results in fancy page
Date: 4 Apr 2002 09:09:10
Message: <3cac5e86@news.povray.org>

> What about isosurface max_gradient warning ?

  A warning is a warning?

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Shortest Code Contest Results in fancy page
Date: 4 Apr 2002 09:30:49
Message: <3cac6399$1@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message news:3cac582f@news.povray.org...
>
>   IMHO the rules should say that the scene must not issue any warnings.
>

Why? This would invalidate a lot of perfectly acceptable shortcuts. Suppose I
make an image that works by casting shadows, do I have to have a pigment for
each shape even though they are never seen?


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