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(Oops! I accidentally deleted the other article (I was trying to delete
my own reply to that article, not the article itself). Well, never mind.)
I decided to try a slightly different approach. I don't have Netscape4
myself, but I asked a friend of mine to send me a couple of snapshots.
I think that the new navigation bar should look just like a bunch of
regular links at the left of the page.
In Mozilla and IE the new navigation bar should look almost identical,
except that in Mozilla it stays fixed with respect to the viewport (this
shouldn't be a problem in IE nor Netscape 4; there it just doesn't stay
fixed).
Could you please test this version and give me some comments? Thanks.
By the way, I apologize for the flamewar in the other thread. I still
think that Netscape 4 is dead, but if this new approach for the navbar
does not mess up the page there, then good.
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#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -
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Warp wrote:
>
> (Oops! I accidentally deleted the other article (I was trying to delete
> my own reply to that article, not the article itself). Well, never mind.)
>
> I decided to try a slightly different approach. I don't have Netscape4
> myself, but I asked a friend of mine to send me a couple of snapshots.
> I think that the new navigation bar should look just like a bunch of
> regular links at the left of the page.
> In Mozilla and IE the new navigation bar should look almost identical,
> except that in Mozilla it stays fixed with respect to the viewport (this
> shouldn't be a problem in IE nor Netscape 4; there it just doesn't stay
> fixed).
It looks all right in NS4 and IE3 here, just plain links but at least not
obviously broken like before.
Christoph
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POV-Ray tutorials, IsoWood include,
TransSkin and more: http://www.tu-bs.de/~y0013390/
Last updated 13 Aug. 2002 _____./\/^>_*_<^\/\.______
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In article <3d722e61@news.povray.org> , Warp <war### [at] tag povrayorg> wrote:
> does not mess up the page there, then good.
It works on IE Mac. On Netscape 4.8 Mac the SDL examples are still
unreadable small, but everything else works fine.
Thorsten
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Thorsten Froehlich, Duisburg, Germany
e-mail: tho### [at] trfde
Visit POV-Ray on the web: http://mac.povray.org
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Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
> It works on IE Mac. On Netscape 4.8 Mac the SDL examples are still
> unreadable small, but everything else works fine.
The pre-tag has "font-size: smaller", which means that the text should
be one step smaller than the default text size.
I could remove that definition, but in most cases if the fixed-width font
is as large as the normal text, it takes a lot more space horizontally and
it looks a bit too prominent imho. Of course it's just a question of
aesthetics.
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#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
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Warp wrote:
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> Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
> > It works on IE Mac. On Netscape 4.8 Mac the SDL examples are still
> > unreadable small, but everything else works fine.
>
> The pre-tag has "font-size: smaller", which means that the text should
> be one step smaller than the default text size.
> I could remove that definition, but in most cases if the fixed-width font
> is as large as the normal text, it takes a lot more space horizontally and
> it looks a bit too prominent imho. Of course it's just a question of
> aesthetics.
I think it would not be bad if the code samples (<pre>) would be the same
size and the inline code (<code>).
Although they are a bit larger in Mozilla here they seem fairly small
there too.
Christoph
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TransSkin and more: http://www.tu-bs.de/~y0013390/
Last updated 13 Aug. 2002 _____./\/^>_*_<^\/\.______
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Warp wrote:
> Could you please test this version and give me some comments? Thanks.
I find the compromise acceptable.
--
Ken Tyler
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Ok, now pre-blocks should have default font size.
I modified some of their content so that there wouldn't be too long lines.
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#macro N(D)#if(D>99)cylinder{M()#local D=div(D,104);M().5,2pigment{rgb M()}}
N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}// - Warp -
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Warp wrote:
> (Oops! I accidentally deleted the other article (I was trying to delete
> my own reply to that article, not the article itself). Well, never mind.)
>
> I decided to try a slightly different approach. I don't have Netscape4
> myself, but I asked a friend of mine to send me a couple of snapshots.
> I think that the new navigation bar should look just like a bunch of
> regular links at the left of the page.
> In Mozilla and IE the new navigation bar should look almost identical,
> except that in Mozilla it stays fixed with respect to the viewport (this
> shouldn't be a problem in IE nor Netscape 4; there it just doesn't stay
> fixed).
>
> Could you please test this version and give me some comments? Thanks.
>
> By the way, I apologize for the flamewar in the other thread. I still
> think that Netscape 4 is dead, but if this new approach for the navbar
> does not mess up the page there, then good.
>
Looks excellent on Mozilla 1.0 (Linux), has buttons, they stay put.
Looks ok on Netscape 4.76 (Linux), just links, they scroll. There was
one additional problem. The code samples are being reformatted without
line-breaks, making the text flow as one long line. I see the <pre> tags
in there so this seems to be a problem with my version of Netscape,
not the HTML document.
Looks good in IE4 (Win98), just links, they scroll.
Konqueror 3.0.1 (Linux) started out good, has buttons, they stay put.
But for some weird reason the Language page ended up with a bunch of the
text tucking under the menu. The others didn't do that. It also seems to
think that page is extremely wide. All the other pages are fine. This
is probably a bug in Konqueror; it may work fine in a newer version.
It looks crappy in IE1.0 - j/k ;)
Web site design usually ends up a compromise between doing all you want
as a web designer and doing what avoids making site visitors pissed.
Looks like you're heading in the right direction. The sites that really
bug me are the ones that pop up a message saying you need a certain
browser to view their site but if I change my browser's identifier string
to fake it out, their site looks fine!
-Roz
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