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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: POV performance
Date: 6 Jul 2001 11:10:07
Message: <MPG.15afe598f11fd32e989998@news.povray.org>
> > > I take it you never did any raytracing on a 486 then?
> >
> > Actually, I did.  I think my scenes are becoming more complex and I'm
> > playing with more parts of POV.
> 
> Oh well, I thought there was the start of a You Know You Haven't Been Ray Tracing
Long Enough theme
> going there.  Could have been interesting perhaps.
> 
> Bob H., the proud owner of a 486 w/o coprocessor at first ray.

I started with a 486SX/25 and 4Mb of RAM...

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Jamie Davison
Subject: Re: POV performance
Date: 6 Jul 2001 11:10:44
Message: <MPG.15afe5c1b6dfb54a989999@news.povray.org>
> > > (I have noticed that when I try to create 3d clouds as described in some
> > > examples, that my pps can drop to 50-60.  At that point, unless I really
> > > want to see the picture, I kill it.)
> > 
> > I take it you never did any raytracing on a 486 then?
> Actually, I did.  I think my scenes are becoming more complex and I'm
> playing with more parts of POV.  

And you consider 50-60pps to be slow???

You've been spoilt by the advance of technology...

Bye for now,
     Jamie.


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: POV performance
Date: 6 Jul 2001 13:30:25
Message: <3B45F625.71C5EDD8@inapg.inra.fr>
Jamie Davison wrote:

> And you consider 50-60pps to be slow???
> You've been spoilt by the advance of technology...

My personal scale ;-)
Too slow    :  1 pps = 133 h @ 800*600, 89 days @ 3200*2400
Slow        :  5 pps =  27 h @ 800*600, 18 days @ 3200*2400
Almost slow : 10 pps =  13 h @ 800*600,  9 days @ 3200*2400
Fast        : 20 pps =  20 h @ 800*600,  4 days @ 3200*2400
Unheard of  :100 pps =  80 min @ 800*600, 21 h  @ 3200*2400

My renders usually oscillate between "Slow" and "Almost slow". I'm presently in
"Slow".
No amount of technology can fix that, apparently.

G.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POV performance
Date: 6 Jul 2001 13:51:58
Message: <3b45fabe@news.povray.org>
I started with a 486DX with 4Megs of RAM.
  It was the Athlon of that time. Then the Pentium was introduced... :)

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rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POV performance
Date: 6 Jul 2001 13:55:52
Message: <3b45fba8@news.povray.org>
Gilles Tran <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote:
: Too slow    :  1 pps = 133 h @ 800*600, 89 days @ 3200*2400
: Slow        :  5 pps =  27 h @ 800*600, 18 days @ 3200*2400
: Almost slow : 10 pps =  13 h @ 800*600,  9 days @ 3200*2400
: Fast        : 20 pps =  20 h @ 800*600,  4 days @ 3200*2400
: Unheard of  :100 pps =  80 min @ 800*600, 21 h  @ 3200*2400

  I must be spoiled as well, as for simple scenes (eg. scenes/advanced/piece3/)
I get more than 10000 pps.

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rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: David
Subject: Re: POV performance
Date: 6 Jul 2001 18:42:23
Message: <20010706.174205.1504569917.4283@erwin.largegeek.com>
In article <3b454b88@news.povray.org>, "Bob H." <omn### [at] msncom>
wrote:

> "Tom A." <tar### [at] my-dejacom> wrote in message
<snip>
> Oh well, I thought there was the start of a You Know You Haven't Been
> Ray Tracing Long Enough theme going there.  Could have been interesting
> perhaps.
> 
> Bob H., the proud owner of a 486 w/o coprocessor at first ray.
> 
> 
> 

I started out on a 486DX/40  with 4MB of RAM, with barely enough free space on
my hard drive to fit the image files. those were the days :}
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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: POV performance
Date: 7 Jul 2001 02:07:09
Message: <slrn9kd9od.aft.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On Fri, 06 Jul 2001 17:42:06 -0500, David wrote:
>I started out on a 486DX/40  with 4MB of RAM, with barely enough free space on
>my hard drive to fit the image files. those were the days :}

You had a hard drive?

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-z-z-z a+z)torus{1F clipped_by{plane{a 0}}}translate V}#end#macro Z(a F T)merge{
P(z+a)P(z-a)R(-z-z-x a)pigment{rgbt 1}hollow interior{media{emission T}}finish{
reflection.1}}#end Z(-x-x.2y)Z(-x-x.4x)camera{location z*-10rotate x*90}


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From: Mick Hazelgrove
Subject: Re: POV performance
Date: 7 Jul 2001 04:48:02
Message: <3b46ccc2@news.povray.org>
Gilles wrote:

> My personal scale ;-)
> Too slow    :  1 pps = 133 h @ 800*600, 89 days @ 3200*2400
> Slow        :  5 pps =  27 h @ 800*600, 18 days @ 3200*2400
> Almost slow : 10 pps =  13 h @ 800*600,  9 days @ 3200*2400
> Fast        : 20 pps =  20 h @ 800*600,  4 days @ 3200*2400
> Unheard of  :100 pps =  80 min @ 800*600, 21 h  @ 3200*2400

This about sums it up for me too - though I generally give up if the render
goes below 4pps or cut the image size to 640x480!

These days with long parse times, radiosity and media it's a slow job to
develop a picture around two to three months.

Mick


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: POV performance
Date: 7 Jul 2001 06:39:59
Message: <3b46e6ff@news.povray.org>
Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote:
: You had a hard drive?

  The first PC I have used was a 8086. I didn't use POV-Ray in it, though.
I have also used a 286 with a really small HD (something like 10 Megs or so)
quite a lot.

-- 
#macro N(D,I)#if(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().5,2pigment{
rgb M()}}N(D,(D[I]>99?I:I+1))#end#end#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I
],13),8)-3,10>#end blob{N(array[6]{11117333955,
7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330},0)}//                     - Warp -


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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: POV performance
Date: 7 Jul 2001 20:54:33
Message: <slrn9kfbo2.aqc.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On 7 Jul 2001 06:39:59 -0400, Warp wrote:
>Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote:
>: You had a hard drive?
>
>  The first PC I have used was a 8086. I didn't use POV-Ray in it, though.
>I have also used a 286 with a really small HD (something like 10 Megs or so)
>quite a lot.

As I mentioned, the first computer I used POV on was an Amiga 500 with (at the
time I was using POV on it) a 68010 running at a little over 7 MHz and 4.5 MB
of RAM (I used DBW-Render on the same machine with a 68000 and 512K of RAM,
though.)  It didn't have a hard drive until later in its life, but that didn't
stop me from making some pretty cool images for the time.  Unfortunately, I 
no longer have a running Amiga to get any of them off of the disks they're
on.  I suppose I might be able to mount the HD (a Micropolis 1325 - 72 whole
megabytes!) on a newer machine if I could find a SCSI adapter, though.

-- 
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mod(P,100)),#local P=P/100;#end"")#end background{rgb 1}text{ttf L(R.x)L(R.y)0,0
translate<-.8,0,-1>}text{ttf L(R.x)L(R.z)0,0translate<-1.6,-.75,-1>}sphere{z/9e3
4/26/2001finish{reflection 1}}//ron.parker@povray.org My opinions, nobody else's


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