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From: Peter J  Holzer
Subject: Re: Proposed tutorial format (hope this is in plain text).
Date: 10 Sep 2000 14:01:08
Message: <slrn8rnhia.5q8.hjp-usenet@teal.h.hjp.at>
On 9 Sep 2000 15:57:05 -0400, Warp wrote:
>Peter J. Holzer <hjp### [at] sikituwsracat> wrote:
>: The alt tag is mandatory in
>: HTML, though you could argue that nobody will use to text browser to
>: view a CD full of images :-)
>
>  The alt-tag doesn't only work for formatting better in text browsers,
>but it can only be used for a kind-of tooltip (at least in the most recent
>versions of graphical browsers, I think).

Yes. Some graphical browsers (Netscape >= 4.0, maybe IE) show the alt
text in a tool tip. I find this behaviour seriously annoying.

>  The correct way of doing it would be something like this:
>
>
>This <a href="image.jpg"><img src="image.jpg" alt="[IMAGE]" border=0></a>
>is a Povray image.

Are there any text browsers which need the extra link? After all the URL
is already embedded in the <img> tag and it is up to the browser to
enable the user to identify, retrieve and possibly display the image.
Lynx and w3m both do this. 

Also "[IMAGE]" isn't very descriptive, as somebody alse noted already.


>  Also the correct alt-tag for non-essential decorations (which do not
>contribute to the text) is: alt=""

Right.

	hp

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Proposed tutorial format (hope this is in plain text).
Date: 11 Sep 2000 08:45:36
Message: <39bcd3f0@news.povray.org>
Peter J. Holzer <hjp### [at] sikituwsracat> wrote:
: Are there any text browsers which need the extra link?

  Unfortunately lynx needs it (I haven't tested the latest version, though).
  Other text borwsers, such as w3m don't need it.

: Also "[IMAGE]" isn't very descriptive, as somebody alse noted already.

  You are right (and he). The idea was that if you need some kind of "anchor"
that shows where the image is, it should be different from the surrounding
text.

  Exception: If the image itself is text that should be among the regular
text (the image could be some weird font, a logo or whatever) then the
alt-tag should be regular text as well.
  Eg:

This <img src="latexlogo.gif" alt="LaTeX"> tutorial is great.

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):_;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Peter J  Holzer
Subject: Re: Proposed tutorial format (hope this is in plain text).
Date: 14 Sep 2000 18:01:57
Message: <slrn8s2f50.9al.hjp-usenet@teal.h.hjp.at>
On 11 Sep 2000 08:45:36 -0400, Warp wrote:
>Peter J. Holzer <hjp### [at] sikituwsracat> wrote:
>: Are there any text browsers which need the extra link?
>
>  Unfortunately lynx needs it (I haven't tested the latest version, though).

You can toggle "show inline images as links" with "*". Don't know if
this is a new feature.

	hp

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   _  | Peter J. Holzer    | Nicht an Tueren mangelt es,
|_|_) | Sysadmin WSR       | sondern an der Einrichtung (aka Content).
| |   | hjp### [at] wsracat      |    -- Ale### [at] univieacat
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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: Proposed tutorial format (hope this is in plain text).
Date: 17 Sep 2000 01:22:27
Message: <39C454DB.B00DCED8@geocities.com>
"Peter J. Holzer" wrote:

> On 11 Sep 2000 08:45:36 -0400, Warp wrote:
> >Peter J. Holzer <hjp### [at] sikituwsracat> wrote:
> >: Are there any text browsers which need the extra link?
> >
> >  Unfortunately lynx needs it (I haven't tested the latest version, though).
>
> You can toggle "show inline images as links" with "*". Don't know if
> this is a new feature.
>
>         hp

It's been in there for a few years. It was around back before the Asian economy
collapsed.


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